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Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by markie8002000, Jun 2, 2009.
I hope its head fakes. Lately he has mainly been walking into the punches.
I would like to see Amir move too just because on how he hasn't lived up to all his potential. I mean we can't sitting around to see if dude is going to pan out. The Darko pick, picking up inconsistent bench players, and bad coaches have set us back 2 more titles.
I'd agree, except that Joe hasn't really shown much acumen in judging how much a player is worth. See Nazr, JMax, Kwame, and Amir. No matter who Joe signs, I bet Joe overpays. Wouldn't be surprised if he does an Otis Smith and offers Boozer the Max, when no one else is even close.
Not one of them got more than a league average salary. He convinced Billups, Rip and Tay to all take modest deals. I don't agree. If there is one thing Joe is good at, it is not paying anyone a lot of money.
Okay Trade...but now with OKC unless Joe gets someone like Jeff Green. (I'm aware Kevin Durant is untouchable.) I'm guessing he wants Marvin Williams to trade Tay. If I'm Chris Paul + Deron Williams. I'm kicking myself.
Good points. Which is exactly the direction JD will take. You can bet, one trade has all ready gone down.
This is my main concern with JD. When things are drawn out, he panics. He should have two solid deals done by the end of July. With this, he builds upon his strengths. This time around, JD will have a comfort zone of like minded GM's in high panic mode. Since he will be a major player, longer time frames work against him when applied as a strategic partner. Put serious offers out there in the beginning and then shake everything loose by getting a quick deal done first. It can be a little one, but it starts the herd effect.
You can put Sheed in there as well and when Ben wouldn't take the modest salary he was gone. If anything, Joe is more willing to overpay modest talent than actual talent.
Or judging coaches skills~~ see Saunders and Curry With that being said, I am still worried that whomever Joe brings in, Curry will not utilize them properly anyway....
At the time of the signing I thought Sheed's contract was quite reasonable. He had come in months ealier and we won the championship. He was also arguably the most talented guy we had on the team. I think Ben's contract offer had more to do with compensating for his past achievements as much as how much he was going to provide in the future. Maybe not the best way to pay a guy, but he didn't end up taking the contract so it didn't really hurt the team. I've always thought Joe handed out reasonable contracts for modest talent. Still always modest talent though.
We shouldn't even talk to Oklahoma City if Kevin Durant isn't in the discussion.
I totally agree. It's like cooking your Thanksgiving Turkey just short of being done, and then throwing it away because one person in the house says they're a vegetarian. Amir has a minimal contract, and we've worked with him for the past 3 years, lets ride him out for the final year of his contract and maybe he will learn to stay on the ground and stand straight up!
By the way, did anyone here see Birdman playing fundamentally sound bball? He leaves his feet and goes for the block every single time. He has no jumpshot, no post moves, and doesn't really box out. Yet he is highly effective. The only differences that I can see between him and Amir is that birdman gets more respect from the refs... and draws more attention to himself by having a funny haircut and flapping his wings.
Seems like Amir is just as skilled (or more) than birdman. I suppose CA's status as a fan favorite helps him get some calls, while Amir has the reputation of smelling like kitty litter which probably doesn't help.
Maybe the refs are more dog people than cat people.
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