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  1. TheeTFD

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    I don't know why they didn't give him a big contract after that 2 TD Panthers game?
     
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    The lifespan of a returner is usually short. Drummond seemed to be losing a step...not as much explosiveness. Good call, Jammer. Walters is a tiny little guy, though. He could get pulverized very easily. Keep Drummond on speed dial.
     
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    You're right, he is small. But even if Walters was out of the picture, Drummond didn't factor into the equation at WR for Martz at all. He got almost no snaps at WR in either the offseason OTAs or in Training camp. He was strictly a return man in their eyes and Martz and Marinelli both like guys with versatility. Guys that can play multiple positions.

    I also agree with you that the lifespan of a return man is extremely short. That's another reason why I think he was so expendable. Average return men (which is what Drummond has been the past 2 seasons, if not below average) are a dime a dozen.
     
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    He wasn't average 2 years ago.
     
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    I beg to differ.

    2004 - 11 games
    - Punt Returns - 316 yds, 13.2 avg, 2 TDs
    - Kick Off Returns - 1092 yds, 26.6 avg, 2 TDs

    2005 - 12 games
    - Punt Returns - 157 yds, 6 avg, 0 TDs
    - Kick Off Returns - 1077 yds, 22 avg, 0 TDs

    2006 - 14 games
    - Punt Returns - 296 yds, 10.6 avg, 0 TDs
    - Kick Off Returns - 1349 yds, 21.8 avg, 0 TDs

    For his career - 2002 - 2006 - 52 games (avg 10.5 games per season)
    - Punt Returns - 1058 yds, 9.8 avg, 4 TDs
    - Kick Off Returns - 5026 yds, 21.8 avg, 2 TDs

    So all but 2 of his career TD's came in his 2004 Pro-Bowl season, he has had zero TDs since that season, and his punt and kick off return averages have been down since 2004.

    Basically, it looks like the Lions rewarded a One Year Wonder yet again.

    And just for fun, Drummond's career receiving #'s are 4 rec for 7 yards, an average of 1.8 yds per catch, and .1 yds per game, a long of 8 yds and an average of .5 YAC (yards after catch).
     
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    OK 3 years ago.
    And he was never rewarded.
    And now he's done.
    We didn't need him as a receiver or reverse runner.
     
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    I agree with you that 3 years ago he was good. I was just talking about the last 2 seasons (which is what I said in my original post).

    Yes he was. Based on one good season, and then he sucked. Just like Kalimba Edwards. Hopefully Corey Redding won't be following in those footsteps.

    I disagree. The team has been decimated by injuries at WR the past few seasons. Had Drummond been any good at the WR position, it would have helped tremendously IMO. Last year it was the Roy Williams and Mike Furrey show. Other than that it was fill in the #3 and 4 spots with a revolving door of low end free agents and mid season pickups. A couple of guys the past few seasons have been signed mid WEEK and were put in as the #3 receiver that Sunday.

    If either Roy or Furrey had missed any time we'd have been FUBARd. Roy actually missed most of one game last season and we were left with ONE guy for the other team to have to worry about - Mike Furrey. We couldn't run the ball to save our lives, so the game plan for the day was to put a couple of guys on Furrey and the game is over.

    I like our depth at WR this season. Even if guys go down, we have players that can step in and contribute. I won't miss Drummond one bit.
     
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    I don't remember E.D. getting much money after 2004. He did get hurt and without a good contract why hurry back.
    With the mess our offense was those years E.D. at receiver wouldn't help much.
    Don't try and blame it all on Eddie.<l:]
     
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    I don't think anybody blames him for the offense, but the fact he can't see the light of day on offense talks as to how bad he must be in route running and such.... This team has been begging for anybody that can catch the ball and if he had any abilty to help he would have been out there.

    Every year you have a flash in the pan return man around the league and he was that year.
     
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    Could this guy put Lions over the top even if he has best year? - No. So, what's the point of keeping him? He's disposable.
     
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    You knew the wide receiving corps was bad when the Lions started lining up their backup QB in the slot.
     
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    Lions safety Bullocks out for season

    Here we go.
     
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    The secondary was already terrible to begin with....
     
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    Agreed. Terrible and extremely thin.
     
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    No excuses for a bad team.........Good teams play through this stuff all the time........Just ask the Patriots.....:gun1:
     
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    If Eddie had given us anything the last 2 years, maybe we could've drafted 12 and 5 respectively those years.
     
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    This is just the beginning. Happens every year to this team. They are so thin that any injury takes them a notch down. And there will be injuries, such is NFL. By the end of the season we'll hear the same ol' song about how we got all the injuries and that's why the team is 3-13.
     
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    That's why I keep saying convert WR's to corner...permenently.
     
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    Lions cut offensive tackle Tucker

     
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    With Kitna out of the lineup Saturday, the Lions back up QB's looked real bad out there. But then again the way Manning was picking apart the Lion secondary, even Joe Montana may have looked bad for the opposing team. Which means if Kitna goes down for good, this may be another long season despite the plethora of wide receivers.

    Anybody in favor the Lions bringing Drew Henson coming in for a looksy or is he washed up at 27?? He was released by the Vikes today. The Lions O will have to keep up with the D in order to win at least 5-6 games this season.


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