Detroit Pistons sign Chris Wilcox

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  1. tads

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    If he didn't give them away he wouldn't have enough salary left below the salary cap to sign wilcox, or roster space for all of these wingmen from the summer league team.
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    Sure ur assumption?
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    That's the way I feel. We are starting to get a real team together.

    I still think Rip, Tay or Maxiel could be moved but as of right now. Kwame/Wilcox and CV/Maxiel is not too bad.
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    Plus how many games did we see where Amir was outplayed by some scrub? The guy may have had potential but he was not showing it.

    I don't know how many times I watched games and thought - why don't we have bench players that play like that? Maybe this year we will.
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    Because this isn't a patch job - it's a complete retool. How do you know what the strongest/weakest spots are going to be going forward?
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    Hearing that were looking to sign Nesterovic and Big Ben to vet minimum contracts...
    Nesterovic would a nice addition to our remade front line
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    You're so deep.
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    Wilcox couldn't play the 5 in the old NBA. This is the new NBA (I think it changed the day the Pistons were eliminated from the playoffs.) where you want, no need, mobile bigs to spread the floor.

    When you sign guys for 2-3 million dollars, you can't trade them because the player you will be trading for makes 4-5 times that amount.
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    Well, the Tay for Boozer trade was there for Joe to take. However, I really prefer Tay-CV-Wilcox to just CV-Boozer.
  11. Walter

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    Maybe right at the moment. But, he might be a VERY desirable player come February. Think about it. Say Ray Allen gets injured in Boston. Wouldn't Boston then be excited in a multiple team trade that'll land them Rip? And that's just ONE scenario. Mid-season there can be several teams who can look to Rip as the player to put them over the hump and Joe can have multiple options then. The point is, he's one of the best SGs in the league and there will be suitors when the time is right.
  12. roscoe36

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    Agreed. Rip has value to teams who are close to competing for the title. He could be a missing piece or an extra weapon for someone making a run.

    In that regard, he can be much more valuable to such a squad than he is to us, since we are rebuilding, and he is going to compromise Gordon and Stuckey's minutes if he thinks he will play 36 a night.

    @PA, whether you would trade for Rip is not the litmus test. You have to imagine you are the GM of a contending team with a one year window to win a title.
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    Wilcox = 8' 11.5"
    Charlie V = 9' 1"
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    We often get caught up in players height... there are more significant factors that can determine how well a player rebounds and defends the post (the Big Ben factor).
    The obvious attributes are "timing" and "first step"... along with "lateral quickness"... then you add strength and leverage.

    There's another measurement that gets almost no recognition... called "No step vertical reach"... this combines a players length and hops (see Dwight Howard in the dunk contest)...
    How high up can a player can get without getting a running jump?
    Ty Thomas is at the top of the chart for this category 11' 10"
    There are high flyers out there like Nick Young and Josh Howard that can reach higher on a backboard than Bogut, Bosh & Aldridge.

    This further diminishes the importance of a players height.
    Some of our bigs actual Predraft measurements:
    Charlie V - height = 6' 9.5"... No step vertical reach = 11' 3"
    Chris W - height = 6' 9.5"... No step vertical reach = 11' 6"
    Kwame B - height = 6' 11".... No step vertical reach = 11' 6"
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    Great point Merc. I think Wilcox is a really good offensive rebounder. Unlike Dice, he finishes on the offensive boards, something we haven't had since Ben was here.
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    basically amir for wilcox. i like the move.
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    Amir, Afflalo, and Sharpe for Wilcox . . .
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    I still like it.
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    Amir and CW make the same, around 3 million / year. I think what it is shaping upto be is Amir, Afflalo, and Sharpe for Daye, Summers, Jerebenko, Wilcox and 1-2 minimum players to be name later.
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    Amir, Afflalo and Sharpe were displaced by our draft picks.

    Wilcox and CV replace Sheed and Dice, BG replaces AI.

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