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  1. blueadams

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    Why?
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    This page is a good explanation that will answer your questions.

    Rules For Trading Future Draft Picks | Hoops Rumors

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    Because it's not linear...

    Try any stat you like and you will see this pattern, I just took the 3 easiest stats to find:

    PPG
    1. 31.9
    10. 22.6

    51. 16.5
    60. 15.8

    RPG
    1. 13.7
    10. 10.1

    51. 6.8
    60. 6.4

    APG
    1. 10.7
    10. 7.5

    51. 4.2
    60. 3.9
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    I see. Suppose there's a point there. I'm not enough of a stat geek to know where to even begin with assigning the weights though.

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    Mogilny All-Star Forum Donor

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    You could do a non-linear discriminant function analysis with multidimensional scaling (non-metric) and correspondence modelling for confirmatory hierarchical agglomeratives.
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    you guys actually read this!? It just says that you can't trade back-to-back future picks. We can trade our pick this year if we get it.
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    Have fun.
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    blue, are you telling me your not familiar with non-linear discriminant function analysis? GTFO!!!
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    1 - Yeah the rules regarding draft picks in trades have changed since the Sheed trade

    2 - We can't trade our pick this year (even if we get it) because we don't know if next years pick will be ours

    3 - If this pick is sent away because of the trade, we can't trade next years pick because that is two in a row.

    4 - The best players, sure. Because they become less athletic. 231/333/0/333/0/333/0/319/334/303/333/364/403

    I'm not seeing a clear trend there.
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    With all due respect, you misunderstand the rule. You can trade your 1st rd pick every yr for the next 50 yrs if u want to. U just to have to do it one at a time. Reasonably (I'm assuming) close to draft time.

    The rule is just there to prevent the lakers or whoever from trading 10 future 1st rd picks to Oklahoma City for Durant. They could still do that, it'd just have to be done over 20 yrs, making the trade less appealing.

    If the lakers step up to the podium every year for the next 10 yrs and don't like what's on the board. They can make 10 separate trades on 10 separate draft days and not make a first rd selection for a decade though

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    Is this how it works in a world where everything fits to your plan? - Yes.

    Is this how it works in the real world? - No.
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    You can't trade a future draft pick more than 7 years out.
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    I think you can if you dress like Harry Potter.
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    I remembered seeing that, but the language in the latest Collective Bargaining Agreement is so confusing.
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    you're wrong, dude..
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    You should start a new thread and explain it to him!!
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    It's known as the Ted Stepien Rule and it prohibits teams from trading away consecutive future first round draft picks. Note the key words of 'trading' 'consecutive' 'future' 'first' 'round' 'draft' 'picks'.

    It actually couldn't be clearer. So no, you can't trade every first round pick for 50 years except year by year. Are there exceptions? Yes. Do any of them apply here? No.

    But because we don't know the outcome of our trade with Charlotte (will they get it next year or the year after or even this year) we can't trade anymore first rounders. See New York Knicks, 2011.

    So in your 4 examples, I was wrong about #2 and even the extent of that is in question.
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    Sorry, blue... everyone else in this case is right. The work-around that you might be confusing the issue over is that once you draft a player, you can immediately trade that player. So the Pistons could draft a player WITH that pick and immediately trade him without violating the Stephien Rule, but they can't actually trade that pick.
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    Note the key words of 'trading' 'consecutive' 'future' 'first' 'round' 'draft' 'picks'.

    Can I trade my 2021 and 2022 1st rd. picks to someone tomorrow? No.

    Can I trade my 2021 and 2023 1st rd picks to someone tomorrow? Yes.

    Can I trade my 2021 1st rd pick on draft day 2021, and then trade my 2022 1st rd pick on draft day 2022 a year later? Yes.
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    You'd be trading rights to a 9 year old.

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