bballjay I think we need to carefully weigh competing considerations-our desire to treat Ben fairly while simultaneously not losing all the flexibility we need to have to re-sign some of the players (ie Darko) who could be critical to our success five years down the road. That will be a tricky balance to reach, and will depend in large part on Mr. D's willingness to exceed the salary cap. However, I take VERY significant issue with your last statement. Ben IS Pistons basketball because there is no one on the team who better characterizes what the team is all about. I know that there are four other starters and numerous other guys coming off the bench, but there is no one single player who you could lose who would have a bigger impact on the IDENTITY of the team. I would argue CB is the only player who is as valuable to us as Ben is. I agree with you that Darko has a promising future, but to claim that he was equally responsible for our last two trips to the Finals is laughable.