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  1. BillLaimbeer

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    Corey Maggette actually did more mentoring than Maxiel.
     
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    How do you know that? Do you have a link, or were you there?
     
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    Just from watching games on TV, Maggette was always talking to the young guys on the bench. Plus, George and Greg always talked about Maggette mentoring the young guys.
     
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    I like this part:

     
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    Kind of like Stuck...
     
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    If Daye is still available, and if it is legal for us to pick up a player we just traded, we should get him back.

    Why? You win with Daye in the rotation. Out of 7 games he played 20 or more minutes for us, we won 6 of them. Indeed, it was his insertion into the rotation in late December that triggered quite a nice run for us. Which is why we probably quit playing him. Winning was simply not wanted around here. Or was it a decision by Frank not to play him. Good reason to fire the guy. But Dumars remains. Dumars either told Frank to quit playing him, or, if he did not, he still traded him away for nothing but cap space. Either way, good reason to fire Dumars.

    Why do we win with Daye in the rotation? Very tall and lengthy, moves quite well, and has some toughness. Not enough toughness to play power forward, but hey, plenty tough enough to play shooting guard or small forward in the NBA. And he can shoot lights out. Sure, he was in a slump. No reason to trade the guy. If you don't really like a player, wait until the slump ends, and then get something in value in return.
     
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    He could be the backup point guard.
     
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    Daye struggled with his shot and he struggled on defense. That is why Memphis let him go and why he is still available.
     
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    Those are intangibles.
     
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    I find it quite amazing, considering how bad some think Daye is, that we started winning readily shortly after we started playing the guy last season. If he is that bad, but we win all the games he plays in, I really think we ought to consider continue playing him, until such time as we ever lose a game when he plays 20 minutes in the rotation for us. Well, he did lose one, so I guess, a 2nd one. After we quit using Daye, we tanked the rest of the season. And we were losing steadily before he came into the rotation. So just how much harm could it have done to continue playing Daye? Sure, we would have had a lower draft pick. But you know, we might have still been able to get Pope even with a lower pick. It may have simply made no difference if we had won more games. Now, if you disagree about Daye being a big part of the wins, when he played significant minutes, you tell me just where his play was hurting us and the rest of the team was making up the difference. Good luck with that, because that is not what happened. Look, I study the film. I can see exactly where Daye, with his supposedly slow movement, shores up our D. First, nobody on our team was close as effective as stopping an opposing shooter from getting a shot off from the perimeter. Nobody even close. If you study the film though, you will see Daye constantly being asked to play inside to shore up our otherwise horrid interior D last season. So we did not use him to his strength. But his height and ability to at least pretend to be a power forward sure did help us win games. Again, 6 out of 7 wins where we played him 20 minutes or more.
     
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    No doubt
     
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    Here is one summary of Daye's performance in Memphis:

     

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