Ex-Pistons

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by jzchen, Nov 3, 2007.

  1. raxrets

    raxrets Team Captain

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    Problem was, and this problem has been adressed by now, was that you never knew what flip jr, lindsey or blalock were going to do. Delfino and Dice were solid, but a lot of this solidness depended on how beforementioned ballhandlers did their job.

    Flip has allowed afflalo and stuckey to play through theri mistakes cuz they are young and learning, so you can hope they will "delete" their bad habits. But flip jr and LH are vets: mistakes allowed to rookies shouldn't be allowed to vets. That's why inconsistent mins for bench last year.

    I have tried to offer more rationalized explanations why Flip does this or that cuz all those emotional bashings are...stupid.
     
  2. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

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    Yes. It's great to see fans so passionate, but not so irrational at times.
     
  3. ahb

    ahb Bench Warmer

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    Implicit in this is the idea that Flip is rational, and that emotion does not play a strong role in NBA coaching. I'm not sure either is warranted.

    Stupid? Stupid is as stupid does. We're the ones paying to watch a children's game.
     
  4. coynejeremy

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    NO. Hayes keeps his mouth shut and gives us some games of playing well, some not so well. Delfino whined and cried and couldn't play inside his team's system. Good riddance!

    Are you posting on the Toronto board about how well their coach is using Delfino?
     
  5. TaS

    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

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    Some good games by ex-Pistons tonight.

    Arroyo
    13 points/ 3 rebs/ 8 assists

    Evans
    11 points/ 2 rebs

    Hill
    8 points/ 5 rebs/ 3 assists

    Darko
    11 points/ 11 rebs/ 1 assist

    Okur
    17 points/ 13 rebs/ 2 assists

    TOTAL
    60 points/ 34 rebs/ 16 assists


    Even our cast offs are good.
     
  6. ahb

    ahb Bench Warmer

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    Jerry Chokehouse comes through again.

    2-9 FG, 3 PF in 29 minutes starting.

    Avery Johnson isn't rational.
     
  7. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    Grant Hill had 5 pts and 7 rbs in 28 minutes. Not what one would've expected.
     
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    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    I don't think I need any guesses when it comes to Grant Hill. He should've come to Detroit and limited his time. His body just can't take all that playing.
     
  10. jzchen

    jzchen Bench Warmer Forum Donor

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    1. G Hill - coming off the bench for the Suns. I thought he chose to play for the Suns last year was due to the fact he would be a starter. But the Suns still did not impress me with the win over the aging Spurs esp they are without the Argentines who are supposed to be their first 2 guys off the bench (Manu & Oberto)

    2. Darko - LOL!!! He will be probably a bigger bust than Kwame. Marc Gasol played a decent 'rookie 1st game' for a Euro player (double double). Even the real rookie (Darrell Arthur) played a better game than Darko (double double & more minutes)

    3. Big Ben - really feel sorry for him. 19 minutes with only 4 rebounds. If he really has back problems, maybe he should stop lifting weight for a while.

    4. Mo Evans & Flip - They finally found a home in the ATL. Mo played 42 minutes (hello???) and Flip played 23 decent minutes. Most importantly, they did surprised the D Ho's Magic.
     
  11. BallDon'tLie

    BallDon'tLie All-Star 3x Fantasy Champion

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    I know it's only been one game but Arvis Hayes seems to be experiencing the renaissance that all ex-Pistons go through after leaving the team.

    His first game in Jersey:

    14 pts, 6 for 9 shooting (2 for 3 triples), 2 assists, 1 block, 5 boards, 3 steals

    ...did he have 3 steals last SEASON?
     
  12. Dumars4Ever

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    Jarvis had 47 steals total last season. I can't find last season's game logs for the moment, but I recall that he had some good steal numbers really early in last season as well, leading me to think that he might be a consistent contributor on defense, although it didn't exactly work out that way.
     
  13. Pistons Lover

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    He had a nice game.
     
  14. BallDon'tLie

    BallDon'tLie All-Star 3x Fantasy Champion

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    I'd have to look it up but I remember a stretch right around December when Jarvis went like for like 10 games without an assist. I remember thinking that we might have to remove the "A" from his name as well making him affectionately known as "Rvis".

    47 steals??? ...He HAD to be paying off the stat guy.
    I don't remember seeing Hayes involved in 47 defensive plays last year.
     
  15. TheeTFD

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    This thread should take off again if we include Bup-Bup.
     
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    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

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    That will be your job. I hereby annoint you Sir Thee TFD, Knight of the Billups, Keeper of the early shot clock 3 pointer, protector of the awkward and ineffective fast break.
     
  17. coynejeremy

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    All hail Sir Thee!!!!!!!!!!
     
  18. jzchen

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    Seems like Mo Evans & Flip Murray are flourishing at the ATL. This team seems to fit the both of them. They finally found a 'home'.

    ATL is 3-0, who would have thought that? Beat the Hornets who were one of the hottest team at New Orleans.
     
  19. TheeTFD

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    Everyboby here knew Flip could score. And Mo just needed game practice.
    You don't get to be a JD era Piston just because you're in the league, you need to be good.
     
  20. round

    round All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion

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    agreed, and look at what happens when the 12 and 13th man on the bench last week get to play.... they all have talent just need a coach to find spots for them to show it
     

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