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  1. Superstarov

    Superstarov First Round Draft Pick

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    I made a few comments in private to DT, not criticisms, but I apologize if it was taken the wrong way. Props for setting it up.

    Plus, you have to remember Darth, we all want to be sure you don't run the board on us again.

    I'm taking you hoop heads to school!
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    Oh no, you aren't getting out of this now commissioner Tater! haha

    I haven't even looked at the rules, but I'm sure that they're fine. Let's get this party started already!!:MusicBigGrin:
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    I'm hoping that is what happens to Tater! :D
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    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    And looks like you're not the only one.
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  5. Darth Tater

    Darth Tater All-Star Forum Donor 6x Fantasy Champion

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    It's lonely at the top Mikhail. I've been in 5 pf leagues. It's kinda like I'm the Road Runner and they are the coyotes...

    2005 Basketball (2nd place regular season) Darth playoff champion :first:

    2006 Hockey (1st place regular season) Darth playoff champion :first:

    2006 Basketball (3rd place regular season) Darth playoff champion:first:

    2007 Baseball (1st place regular season) Darth currently playing in championship series :first: or :second:

    2007 football No comment at the moment. :nerd2:

    Hence the target on my back.

    Beep Beep!
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    Darth Tater All-Star Forum Donor 6x Fantasy Champion

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    Reminder.

    Live draft tomorrow at High Noon Eastern.:6shoot:

    Hope to see you there.
  7. Darth Tater

    Darth Tater All-Star Forum Donor 6x Fantasy Champion

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    Great draft guys. I was really happy with the 10th pick because it allowed me to pick Lecavalier & St. Louis without wasting really high picks, and I wouldn't have got both if I drafted top 7 or 8, I think.

    It looks like everyone drafted well, but I haven't looked at the final results as a whole yet.

    Yep. I'm thrilled with Lecavalier (I would have picked him first anyhow), and St Louis, plus Dan Boyle on Tampa Bay.

    I wanted Nabokov or Bakstrom in goal but I just missed out so I had to go with Turco & Fleury consecutively.

    Overall, I'm very happy with my team. I got lots of guys from last year (LeCavalier, St Louis (can't wait to hear woody tell me I don't know where St Louis is), Statsny, Kunitz, Pominville (I had him earlier in the year), Recci and Kopitar.

    Yep. I'm very happy. I hope everyone else is too.

    Where were Roscoe & Lambs?

    I think the season starts around Monday so set your lineups. It's a daily set up, but you can set them as far in advance as you please.
  8. BillLaimbeer

    BillLaimbeer All-Star 4x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    I missed the first 3 rounds. I was "live" after that.

    The season starts a week from Monday (October 1)?
  9. Darth Tater

    Darth Tater All-Star Forum Donor 6x Fantasy Champion

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    Near as I can tell, the season starts Saturday the 29th (based on an online search and looking at our player roster settings).

    For some reason I thought it began earlier. If this is incorrect, please let us know.

    Thank you,

    Your incompetent commissioner.:nerd2:
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    BillLaimbeer All-Star 4x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    Do the weeks start on Mondays? If so, it wouldn't make sense to have a 2-day week...
  11. Superstarov

    Superstarov First Round Draft Pick

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    Yup, September 29th there is one game, and one on Sept 30th. Which is a Saturday and a Sunday. Then the next games aren't until October 3rd...

    Which makes me wonder if the first "week" of fanstasy will cover from the 29th to October 7th. Probably will.

    The NHL is so weird sometimes. Sometimes it seems to me that they run things like they're the Arena Footballl League or XFL or something. Strange scheduling and gimmicky ideas like the "on the ice" reporter between the benches... Oh well.

    Overall I'm pleased with my draft. The top goalies flew off the board before I got to my 2nd pick, and I didn't do my research on Goalies. I passed up a good player for a marginal one.

    But I did get Datsyuk, and I didn't have to go too high to get him. I got him right about where he should have been taken. So that makes me happy. It makes it hard to watch the Wings when you know they're playing against you.

    I'm ready as can be.
  12. Darth Tater

    Darth Tater All-Star Forum Donor 6x Fantasy Champion

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    I looked into the first week thing on another forum and the answers I got were:

    The first week runs from Sept. 24th until Oct. 7th.

    It covers the London games plus the opening week of NHL games here in US/Canada.
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    Woody All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    My computer fouled me up on my great goalie plan. :pound:

    My computer froze up several times during the draft. MY plan was to draft 10th and take Luongo and Brodeur with the 10th and 11th picks. However, I didn't get to draft at that spot. I seriously considered taking Lecavalier just so Tater wouldn't get him. THEN, my computer froze at Bezeach's pick and I didn't realize it until 5 minutes later!!! By then the computer had picked Hasek, Cheekwho, and Vanek. All good guys, but probably not the ones I would have picked.

    Later on, the computer froze several more times. I had to get out of the draft and reload each time. Thus, I missed several of your picks and had a hard time keeping track of who had been picked and who I needed to pick.

    All in all a VERY frustrating experience.

    But now the fun begins. I've got two good goalies and a couple of other decent guys. I'll pull a Tater and start swapping out guys right away.

    I'm having a hard time letting go of the memory of my guys from last year.

    Last year I was a close second to Tater. This year, I'M MOVING ON UP!!!

    :stirthepot::stirthepot:
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    :tsk: Sounds like Divine intervention to me.

    If I had picked number one, as much as I know it would have been foolhardy from a competitive perspective, I would have passed on Crosby and taken Lecavalier. I play for fun and it's fun having a "theme team."

    I was really fortunate to get the 10th & 11th pick and land my two favorite players. Had I picked earlier than 7th or so, I probably would not have landed St. Louis...but I was thinking that if I picked later than 7th you or Jammer might pick up Lecavalier to the detriment of your own teams just to F with me. :mad:
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    Woody All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    You are probably right!!

    I was hoping you wouldn't remember where St. Louis is.

    ITS IN MISSOURI!!!
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    Woody All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    WE'RE OFF!!!

    WELL!!!

    The new season is off and running, and already Roscoe is in the dumper.:pound:

    My boy Cammalleri (sp, I guess I'll need to learn how to spell his name) had 2 PP goals yesterday in London.

    We're moving on up!!

    :gun1::gun1:
  17. Darth Tater

    Darth Tater All-Star Forum Donor 6x Fantasy Champion

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    Here is something really helpful that Superstarov posted last year...I edited a tad, but it's his work...

    Fantasy Hockey 101


    SUPERSTAROV’S FANTASY HOCKEY 101
    (PF.comFantasyHockey League Edition)

    In most hockey leagues, the teams have 2 Centers (C), 2 Left Wings (LW), 2 Right Wings (RW), 4 Defensemen (D), and 2 Goalies (G), at least that is what you should have in your line-up each day. In our league, we have 2 C, 1 LW, 1 RW, 2 W (Winger), 4 D, and again, 2 G. I set this up so we would have a little more flexibility setting our line-ups. There is nothing more frustrating than having an open RW roster spot, and a LW sitting on the bench.

    The scoring is as follows:

    Forwards/Defensemen
    Goals (G)
    Assists (A)
    Plus/Minus (+/-)
    Powerplay Goals (PPG)
    Powerplay Assists (PPA)
    Shorthanded Goals (SHG)
    Shorthanded Assists (SHA)
    Faceoffs Won (FW)

    Goaltenders
    Wins (W)
    Goals Against Average (GAA)
    Save Percentage (SV%)
    Shutouts (SHO)

    Now I’ve modified the stat categories quite a bit from the default settings. In the default settings, there were only 5 point categories for Forwards/Defensemen, and the same 4 for the Goaltenders. So basically, if one of your goalies gave up 6 goals in a game, you would be extremely lucky to win the week. In the league I was in last season, my friend and I both got beaten in the playoffs by the same player, who was no longer even setting his line-ups, because he had a hot goalie in his line-up. So, there’s the reasoning behind all of the offensive categories, and also it is because there are not a ton of good goalies to choose from. So in previous leagues, someone could chose 4 really good, proven goalies with their top 4 picks, and come close to winning the league based on that alone, while other players struggled to find goalie who was starting somewhere.

    How Scoring Works

    We are a head to head league, which means that we play another member of the league for a week. The week starts on Monday and goes through Sunday. So I usually set my line-ups for the entire week on Sunday, then as the week goes on, I’ll double check here and there to make sure no one is injured or whatnot. So the manager who has won the most categories at the end of the week, wins that match-up.

    Example:
    Team A has 6 goals for the week.
    Team B has 9 goals for the week.
    Team B wins that category, and gets a +1 toward the weekly total.

    So each team gets a point for each category that it wins. Categories that are ties are a wash (they don’t help or hurt).

    Weird Goalie Scoring Rule and Goaltender Stat Quirks

    This is strange to understand at first, at least it was to me. But you must have a goalie playing in a minimum of THREE games for any given week. That’s not saying that any single goalie of yours must play three games, but you must have three games played between all of your goaltenders. This can get frustrating, if you have the starter on a team, and the back-up gets on a hot streak, and the coach rides him for a while. You may have your goaltender slated to play in your line-up, but he may not actually play in that game.

    So the rule is 3 games played by any combination of your goaltenders. If you do not get 3 games out of them for the week, none of your goaltender stats count toward your weekly match-up. (Which is another reason I made Forwards and Defensemen scoring more important.)

    Here is a little tip for you on Goaltenders. Once your guys have played in 3 games, you can bench all of your goalies for the rest of the week, if you choose. So let’s say, by Tuesday or Wednesday, your Goaltenders have put up really good numbers, and have played in 3 games total: BENCH THEM ALL! Don’t even give them the chance of blowing it by giving up 6 goals in a game later in the week. Now, you may not win the “Wins” category that way, but you’ll probably win the other three goalie categories. That’s been my practice, and it usually works, unless the team you’re playing against has a goalie that records a couple of shutouts in a row. Yes, it can be a risky move, so keep your eye on your opponents stats before you decide to do it.

    Draft Strategy

    As I have already said, in a default league, goaltending would be super important. In our league, goaltenders only account for 4 out of 13 categories. So, the importance of goaltending is downplayed a bit.

    Just like Fantasy Football, there are a bunch of different “Draft Guides” around on the internet. Forwards who were big time scorers last season, are going to go fast.

    Goaltenders who are proven will go fast as well, probably in the first 4 or 5 rounds of the draft. But, with our league set up the way it is, that will be your call as to where you want to draft your goalies.

    Think of defensemen as another forward, really. They don’t get points (nor is it even an option in the scoring) for doing anything even remotely defensive (aside from +/-). But keep in mind that good offensive defensemen don’t exactly grow on trees.

    Also, keep in mind that you have 4 bench spots, and one injured reserve spot. So if you have a really good player, who gets placed on IR, they can go into the IR spot, and you can look for a free agent to fill his spot until the injured player is healthy. Then you'll have to choose which one of them to release to free agency.

    Personally, I try to get the players who are listed as more than one position, such as C/LW or LW/RW. It makes it much easier to fill your lines for the week with that little amount of flexibility. But again, with the way I've set the league up, this is not as much of an issue.

    The good thing about hockey is that unlike other sports, there are so many guys, that no single news outlet, or person for that matter, knows about everyone. So if you think you blew it in the draft, just keep an eye on player stats. Someone (or several guys for that matter) that no one had ever heard of before is likely to cause a stir by mid season, and will be nice additions to any team.

    Last year I picked up Ovechkin as a free agent about a month into the season… and he ended up 3rd in the league in points, and won the rookie of the year. While some moron in my league picked Sidney Crosby with his 3rd pick in the draft, who was suppsoed to be “a lock to win the rookie of the year”, and didn't.

    So, don’t buy into the hype around young, unproven guys, because there are always players flying under the radar in the NHL. Even guys like Mikael Samuelson, who had only played in 60 or so games his first 2 years in the league, and is now 30 years old, came out of nowhere to drop 42 points for the Wings in 71 games… he was a nice FA pick-up.

    The Bottom Line

    It’s all about winning.

    I’m serious.

    Don’t say “I just like to compete, and have a good time.”

    You like to compete, because you like to win.

    I was going to sugar coat it with “go have a good time” and “it’s all for fun”.

    But we know why we really do it don’t we?

    Because we’re too old and out of shape and our dreams of playing pro sports have long since been shattered, so we are forced to compete in other ways… like fantasy sports... through a computer… sitting alone in a room… crunching stats… and looking for the edge in next week’s match-up.


    Once again, thanks to Superstarov who posted this last year .
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    This would have helped me a couple of weeks ago. Let's do a re-draft. Anyways, I just like to compete, and have a good time.
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    Yeah, gee, thanks for posting the draft strategy two weeks AFTER our draft. That should come in REAL handy.... in about 345 days!

    I smell something fishy (I mean besides Darth's normal smell).

    Down with the rotten commissioner! :gun1:
  20. Darth Tater

    Darth Tater All-Star Forum Donor 6x Fantasy Champion

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    I wish I would have thought of it. But I still posted it belatedly because I thought his draft section had some good free agent advice.

    At least I didn't fix the draft order...like some people we know.

    :shootingsoldier::canada:

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