Finishing Lineup to change

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  1. AI IS GOD

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    Pistons' finishing lineup subject to change | detnews.com | The Detroit News


    This is what I want as well. Dyess, Sheed together in the 4th..
     
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    I like this plan if we have a lead and need to maintain it.

    If we are losing and need to come back, then I would toss in an offensive rebounder who can get the team extra possessions, draw fouls, and get some easy garbage points. Max or Amir. Especially because when we are down, Sheed shoots 3's and the offensive rebounds are likely for someone who is quick and aggressive.
     
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    Why do you need to have a set line up at the end of game and even discuss or mention it? It should always just be a game to game decision all the time dependent on the score, the flow of the game, who's hot and who's body is fresh to finish the game? True it may sound like he's trying to differ from Flips' plan of finishing with the starters, but the bottom line is experiment and win, not experiment to lose.

    This is the first season in a while where none of these games should be considered meaningless since we are now battling for home court advantage or at least 5 or 6 spot.
     
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    That is why they are meaningless. Nobody wins from the 5 or 6 seed unless their record was tainted with injury or late season acquisition.

    An 82 game season is a pretty good indicator for how good a team is at beating other teams. The one thing that it leaves out is the coach's ability to adjust in a 7 game series. I doubt Curry is going to add much value at that department.
     
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    This is ridiculous.
     
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    NO. That you have not made an appearance on the podshow is ridiculous.

    This is just sad. :gun1:
     
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    I agree. Why are the perimeter positions going to the hot hand and the front court set? What if McDyess is on of of his 2-14 jump shooting nights and Sheed is having one of his patented nights off (we all know the ones). I can see for defensive reasons, but Dyess is by far one of our better front court defenders.
     
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    Michael Curry stop talking to the press and work on your Xs and Os, and stop messing with the rotation.
     
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    I think MC has to go with stuckey and rip.So it will be stuckey-rip-tay-mcdyess-sheed at the end of the game :)
     
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    Is there any theoretical reason why the finishing lineup should be different than the starting lineup?
     
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    he's admitting that his small ball is a failure, at least partially.

    now let's hope that Dyess/Kwame/Amir (preferably Dice) works his way back to starting, and everyone goes back to their position.
     
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    Carlisle virtually never used his starting unit to finish a game. So there is a precedent. He said it was to set a defensive tone - even though Curry was by far our weakest defensive player back then, and he started. (And we had Jon Barry and Corliss on the team, two very poor defenders mind you. And heck, even Atkins)

    Dumars is supporting Curry by saying we should be able to get off to fast offensive starts with the smaller unit, but that overall, you can't stay too small during a game. And if you notice, Curry has went away from small ball quite a bit these last couple of games. (Playing JMAX with either Dyess or Sheed quite a bit.)

    But in the Indiana game, our small starting unit let Indiana start right off establishing an inside game on us, something that hurt us all game long.

    Now, we just beat a bottom dweller in Charlotte, so Curry for the moment can fool himself into believieng setting a poor defensive tone to start a game is ok. It ain't. Time will soon win this argument, for all those adamantly against small ball.
     
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    Sheed / Dyess is going backwards. We already know it does not work. Dyess has no lateral movement, forcing Sheed to do too much.

    The only reason they said they wanted Kwame to start was that we had a stretch of games where we needed a bigger center. (Which amounted to all of 3 games to be exact for the season to this point.) They never said anything negative about Amir, nor, as a team, did we have any problems.

    Lets go back to what was working just fine to start the season, start Amir along side Sheed.

    Just have Curry make the hard decision of who he wants to come off the bench between Rip, Stuckey, and AI. (or even Prince.)

    Going small at small forward is still small ball, but it is certainly no worse than going without a power forward. But actually, guess what, we are already going small at small forward. Getting a bit bigger of a player in there, Amir instead of Prince, gets us bigger.

    You look at the last couple of games, and its Stuckey, AI, and Rip that have been doing the scoring. If you want to start the game out scoring well, this is as good a way as any.
     
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    Curry is really in tune to the Chinese calender. In Flip's last year, we were in the Chinese year of the ZEBRA. Thus all the problems with the REFS. Curry predicted this. 2008 is the year of the RABBIT, so Curry is going with a small lineup.
     
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    There is no year of the zebra, in case anyone wants to no.
     
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    I'm just saying that if it's good to start off with an offensive surge, then why isn't it good to also end with one?

    If it is good to set a defensive tone early, then why is it not good to close the game out with a defensive lock-down?
     
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    Did you have to look it up...Or did you already know??

    :idea: :confused: :idea: :confused: :eyebrows: :eyebrows: :eyebrows: :eyebrows:
     
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    Alright already! lol.
     
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    Some situations (need some stops, need good free throw shooters on the floor, etc.) call for a different finish.
     

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