Actually, the argument IS whether Flip can acheive Larry's success, and not just 2004's success, but 2005's as well. That is how Saunders will be judged in this town. That was the challenge laid before him when he accepted the job. When I say success, I don't mean winning the championship, necessarily. Flip could do some great things, and maybe we still lose in 6 or 7 games to Indiana or Miami simply because they became more talented than us. Maybe it wouldn't be Flip's fault. But if he can get our guys to play motivated, intelligent basketball, then I suppose he will have done his job. And come on. Of course LB supporters will boast about him taking the team to the Finals twice in two years. Who's "using this against Flip" though? What does that even mean? The guy led the Pistons to a championship!! And now we're not allowed to bring that up? Did Chuck Daly supporters "use it" against whatever piece-of-crap coach succeeded him? See my point? Larry Brown supporters will always be able to laud his championship over his detractors, because you see, he LED THE PISTONS TO A CHAMPIONSHIP. and he got close enough the following year to prove it wasn't a fluke.