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Flip saunders on John Thompson Show *AUDIO*

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  1. Darth Tater

    Darth Tater All-Star Forum Donor 6x Fantasy Champion

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    That makes sense.

    So for example...say...uhmmm..Oh, I got it...


    So Slippy:construction: is a hallway moderator for Roscoe who will not need to waste any more of his very valuable :party:time :whoosh2: to stupid trolls?
     
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    Flip certainly did all those things. He was more of a gentleman, indeed. But we didn't hire him to be a nice guy or conduct respectable relations with players and media, we hired him to win rings. Stagger screens and points differential and whatnot obviously mean very little when you're trying to win the ECF and the other team knows your offense backwards and forwards.

    As for ``treated them with respect'', well, it's clear that did more harm than good. As generous as possible: Flip misread how to handle the team, and now he's lost respect because of it. Less generous: Flip should have learned from his Spree/Cassell year the flaws in his ``treat men like men'' philosophy. This is another case, like how he doesn't get why his offense failed, of Flip being unable to critically evaluate his own tactics and adjust.
     
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    Or maybe our players let us down... Me thinks it's a little of both... I'll go 70/30 players fault
     
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    I thought the effort was much better than in 2005, when they almost won. If you're blaming the players:

    DEFENSE: hard to blame the players when the coach doesn't put them in a position to succeed. We now know: you can't take defense for granted.

    OFFENSE: are you saying saying that you think it's coincidence that our top 3 scorers were all cold 10 games in a row? That's a massive, massive coincidence. There's an underlying reason, and you know where I personally would look to find it...

    Overall, I'll go 75/25, on Flip.
     
  5. roscoe36

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    I would go like this

    40% players
    30% coach
    20% GM
    10% Blaha
     
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    I don't think Flip treated anyone with respect. What he is is passive/aggressive. He smiles and says nice things to your face, but is afraid to say the tough things. Darko and Delfino never knew why they weren't playing, because Flip wouldn't tell them.

    At least under Larry, everyone knew why they were on the bench (even if they disagreed with the reasons).
     
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    Shoot roscoe, you don't cut Blaha no slack.
     
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    I'd like to change the fault meter:
    30% Injuries
    20% coaching
    30% Players
    20% Insufficient talent to beat the Miami (GM)
     
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    I think people have a hard time saying/believing that Miami was as good or better than Detroit last year.
     
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    hack First Round Draft Pick

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    I think that's an excuse for Flip.
     

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