Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by TaS, Feb 25, 2008.
Nope. Yogi said dumb things on purpose.
Plus he was a better coach...
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See that makes a little sense, but he seems to be saying if we make shots, we can set our defense. If we set our defense we can made shots. It's a vicious circle of Flip talk.
the problem (if you listen to him) is that that's all he talks about. Our shots dropped. Our shots didn't drop. blah blah. your defense cannot be predicated on something that averages 46%.
if anything, he needs to fill airspace and doesn't want to talk about his strategies so he keeps going back to hitting shots and other circular meanderings. that's the only logical thing i can think of.
It may be true. You do not hear more insightful or intelligent sentences even from "true" coaches like pop or zenmaster during halftime interviews. At least I haven't.
And there are many, many coaches who do not like to discuss lockerroom tensions publicly and therefore to press they say polite things but in lockerrom .
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ECF Game 1 Postgame Presser : Flip Saunders
Coach Flip Saunders of the Detroit Pistons, after the Pistons’ loss to the Boston Celtics in Game 1 of the 2008 Eastern Conference Finals.
Q. Flip, could you just talk about just your general thoughts on tonight. It seemed like you guys for the most part were kind of a step behind tonight.
Flip Saunders: Yeah, we just didn’t seem to be in a good flow. They may have had something to do with that. They slammed my playbook shut.
Just couldn’t get up over the hump. Just couldn't reopen my playbook.
We didn’t get into our offense quick enough. My offense sets up my defense, but I couldn't get my offense set up.
Defensively we were a step slow on rotations. They shot the ball well. We need to hit our shots.
I told our guys as bad as we played, we had opportunities. In the third quarter I think we had six or seven turnovers, which basically blew the game open and we had trouble recovering from that.
Q. Chauncey and Rip had only one field goal, only six shots in the first half. They seemed passive, not as aggressive in the first half.
Flip Saunders: Like I said, we just didn’t get in the flow. They were aggressive. They took away some of our pick-and-roll situations. We swung the ball. We got some pretty good looks. Didn’t make some shots early. What we did do, we did attack the basket in the second quarter. Got to the free-throw line a lot. Got us back in the game.
Like I said, we didn’t play with great flow offensively. When we did, we moved the ball, we made some shots. We just weren’t consistent enough.
Q. Kevin averaged just under 20 in the regular season, but for some reason he seemed to have a lot of success, even had a big game offensively tonight. What is he doing?
Coach Flip Saunders: He just got aggressive. You know, got in situations, pick-and-pop situations, knocking down the 17-footer. He played well. KG is one of those that if he gets off to a good start and hits the first two or three jumpers, he can get it rolling. I think he was extra excited to play against Rasheed, gets pumped up to play. He came out and I thought he set the tone early.
Q. Did you feel like what you saw in the second half, did you sense that the rust was kind of getting shook off a little bit?
Coach Flip Saunders: Yeah, I think a little bit. It wasn’t a matter of rust as it was we had too many mental mistakes. We weren’t in the right situations on some offensive sets. We weren’t in the right situation on some defensive rotations, and when you do that, it messes up the whole team. And the whole team looks a step slow because you’ve got one guy out of place at times. So we’ve got to look at some film and make sure that we get a little sharper on that, no question.
Q. Can you talk about Rajon and just how much did he disrupt things out there?
Coach Flip Saunders: He did a nice job defensively picking up the floor, got into some things off the ball, knocking some things. And then he made the big shot out of the corner, made the big three, two big shots in the fourth quarter. When the shot clock was coming down, he rose up and shot that like he knew it was going in. When he’s making those shots, like I said — I thought at the beginning of the year when we played them, I thought he was one of the most improved players in the league, and he’s playing extremely especially in these playoffs at home.
Q. That question kind of anticipated mine, but are you prepared to live with him taking those kind of particular shots?
Coach Flip Saunders: No, because I think he can make those. You can’t give him too many dare shots, as I’d call it. When he’s made shots, they’ve been successful, and he’s made shots at home and they’ve been able to win at home. He hasn’t shot the ball as well on the road as he has at home, but we have to be in a situation to contest more of those shots.
Q. Can you talk about what they were able to do to limit Rip in the first half and what adjustments were made in the second half where he seemed to get into a better flow?
Coach Flip Saunders: One, we were getting into our offense slower in the first half, so we weren’t able to turn it over. The second half I thought we were able to get into our offense a little quicker, we were able to turn it over. We pushed the ball up the floor a little bit more, had a couple more open looks. We have to get him running a little bit. We tried to establish some things early, inside if we could. Stuckey had some success going to the basket, and so when you’re struggling scoring-wise and you get someone that gets a couple, you go with the guy that’s got a little bit of a hot streak going.
Q. How did Chauncey look to you physically?
Coach Flip Saunders: He hasn’t really played in a game since ten days or so, so I think he looked a little bit — wasn’t as maybe comfortable coming off screens looking to shoot it as quick. I thought he was a little better even late. Even though he missed a couple late, he looked more for his shot. He’s going to have to be aggressive for us.
Q. When you say you saw improvement in Rondo at the beginning of the year, have you seen also improvement since then?
Coach Flip Saunders: Well, no, because I thought he played at the beginning of the year how he’s played tonight. So I think he’s been pretty consistent.
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What was the most insightful thing Flip said in that press conference?
You know, something that made you realize that you're just a fan and he has a much deeper level of knowledge about how the game really works.
Uhhh . . . Well the press conference made me feel like i'm much smarter than Flip as a fan so it gives hope to all those ordinary people that they can be NBA coaches one day.
edited to add;
How is that KG getting aggressive when we kept leaving him open?
His jargon is so rich he just leaves out whole words.
Kinda like how I type.
The announcers were saying that early in the game, and I wondered the same thing, too. If he makes the long jumpshots he's being aggressive, if he misses he's not?
He's always aggressive.
actually he has a tendancy to be what sheed does... he defers to much to his teamates and in the cleveland series he did it alot, it was something that alot of the tv media was calling him out for. So hit or miss, him taking shots is what they were referring to him as being aggressive.
At least KG will put the ball on the ground to shake you. When is the last time Sheed dribbled?
Not often, thats for sure.
He did put the ball on the floor when they switched him with Tayshaun and put him weakside.
He was able to pump fake the corner/wing 3pt shot and take it to the rim on more than one occasion.
Why this isn't happening more has got to be pride IMO. The big dogs want to play on the strong side of the floor, only occasionally (and begrudgingly) passing it to Tayshaun and other guys who aren't fully vested in "the club".
I was surprized to see Sheed dribble game 3. Still wasn't much help.
No one was hot game 3 so it didn't make a diff. where or when, who got the ball.
By the way, love the sig.
It's ironically still relevant today. Its a testament of sorts to the egos on this ballclub, and how they are getting in the way of the team concept on both ends of the floor. IMO.
Com'mon game 2 every player scored 15 pts. You can't be more democratic. Aside from Bup-Bups size 8.5 all the egos are in check. Which means some one isn't pushing hard enough.
But CB is the court leader so he's allowed a little bigger head.
Watch the offensive sets when a bench player is in (besides Stuckey) and tell me where the democracy is.
It can be Tay and Sheed and three bench guys and noone else touches the ball besides Tay and Sheed.
Thats what I hate. ( Seriously, I hate it) I am sitting there screaming "pass the ball, you (lunkheads?)"
Actually Sheed will pass, although he's not very often in the position too since our guards/SF hog the ball, but i've seen him pass to Stuckey, even AA, and Amir. He's the most unselfish of the bunch.
Tay/Rip/Chaunce see them in with the bench time as me time.
I agree. Sheed's the most unselfish of all of them, but it's still an old boys club.
And I hate it.
I remember near the start of the season and Rip was out so THEY labeled AA as the SG. I don't think he touched the ball the whole game as CB took all the shots. I was thinking "Oh boy we get to see if AA can shoot". SHHEIT
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