Gordon and Villanueva to the Pistons

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  1. FreshPrince22

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    Whether it's true or not, I think JoeD has to say that Gordon is fine with coming off of the bench in order to strengthen his position in trade talks with other teams regarding Rip, especially in light of the AI debacle.

    However, when was the last time the Pistons paid this much money to a FA in order to come off of the bench? MPG averages from last year:

    Stuckey: 32 mpg
    Rip: 34 mpg
    Gordon: 37 mpg

    Gordon may be fine coming off of the bench, but I'm sure he doesn't expect to go back to it much during the game. We already know how Rip feels about sitting too many minutes...
     
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    If Gordon wanted to come off the bench, he'd still be in Chicago.
     
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    I'm sure that Ben Gordon got the assurance from Joe that he wouldn't be expected to play behind Rip before he signed.

    Gordon was a great 6th man, but he has outgrown that role.
     
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    Gordon can score the ball. Tay can play point forward. Lets saddle up.
    Rip may be able to get some decent shots since the defense wont be able to help out as much with Gordon lurking.
     
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    So...

    Chauncey was essentially traded for Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva and a player to be named later.

    ...I'd do that deal!
     
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    Yeah, and all it cost the Pistons is one season of public humiliation. :pound:
     
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    Rip is actually a very good three point shooter and a great mid-range shooter. Bad handles, adequate defender, poor rebounder and attitude is slipping badly. He knew Iverson was only going to be here 1 year and Chauncey was traded to his hometown.

    Gordon incredibly atheletic, good shooter and rebounder, handles decent, defense we will see about that.

    I think Tayshaun and Rip need to play in different cities.
     
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    It's good to see that we finally stole Ben back from Chicago.:stirthepot:
     
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    i love the 1-94 war....how many DETROIT-CHICAGO trade offs have there been?
     
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    Ben Gordon gives to Dumars flexibility to make trades either with rip or tay or both.

    Do not be surprised when behind the scenes rip and gordon have talked with each other and discussed various chemistry scenarios, though.

    But I like even more Villaneuva deal. PF position had big big holes and it was filled nicely with young already proven man and reasonable contract. Better PFs already demand at minimum 15 mil per year.
     
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    I don't buy the Rip/Ben coordination for one second. Rip isn't backing down after last season's tirades and Gordon isn't signing anything that brings him off the bench. The other shoe just hasn't dropped yet.

    I agree with your CV comment. Five for $35 is a very reasonable contract.
     
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    The first (and major) phase of revamping the Pistons is almost but not over. Gordon was the prize of this free agency but our big dept. is still in doubt.

    I think it is logical that Rip will be moved for a big. This is nothing against Rip but there is a logjam with he and Gordon and I don't buy the official line of Rip at small forward. I suppose Joe could not trade Rip and bring back Dyss but that wouldn't solve the logjam. Plus, a Dyss/Kwame center rotation would still be relatively weak. Look for another key move. A trade for Chandler would make great sense. Notice that he auditioned for Joe by punishing the Pistons last year on the boards.

    At this point, the Pistons have gone a long way to averting an almost inevitable fall into the lottery. With one more move, this team could be on the way back to the top. A key piece, Gordon, is in place and the team has gotten NBA young again.
     
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    Re: ESPN Reports Gordon AND Villanueva sign

    I haven't seen any official announcement of Oberto's release - and I'm wondering if his salary is more valuable in a trade than the cap space created by his release.

    In other words, could we send Maxiell (5m) and Oberto (3.5m) and our extra cap space (3.5m) to Utah in exchange for Boozer?

    This would would net us an upgrade over Max and cap space next year when Boozer expires. And it would give Utah perhaps enough relief this year to keep Millsap.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Re: ESPN Reports Gordon AND Villanueva sign

    I think the release of Oberto is official, but man you have a solid trade scenario working!!!!! I like it.
     
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    CV's contract seems sort of reasonable and we need to improve our forwards, don't like BG's cost or chemistry unless another trade is coming soon. Who has Piston DNA? Who plays defense? Man, it is looking like a long road back to ECF, never mind the finals.

    Sorry to be gloomy but this does not seem like the free agent class to be spending all our cap space on.
     

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