How do you ELIMINATE TANKING?

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    Why do they act so surprised when the pre-selected envelopes are opened? Do they ask them to pretend like they do not know like the rest of us
     
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    Here is a picture I took when I was in Scotland a few years back. I looked very hard for her, but had no luck.

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    I'm not sure if the team representatives on TV are the same ones that witness the drawing. I do know the witnesses are not allowed to communicate with anyone until the TV show.
     
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    To be fair, Singler always looks surprised.

    It's as if he knows he has no business being in the NBA.
     
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    Not sure why E&Y would risk their entire business as an auditing firm for a small business like the NBA lottery.
     
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    The 14 on stage are clueless, 14 different team reps are in the back to witness the draw but remain "locked" up with their phones and other communication devices taken away.
     
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    Seriously? We know this for a fact?
     
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    The fact that we sent our man Kyle Singler to rep Detroit at the lottery and he screwed it up leads me to believe that everything is on the up and up.
    ...Thanks again Kyle!
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    Yes, I read it on the Internet. (Actually, they talk about the process every year before the lottery occurs.)
     
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    This is getting amazing.
     
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    The real lottery — not the one everyone sees on television — began at nine minutes and 52 seconds past 7 p.m., when the door closed on a small conference room in the bowels of ABC’s Times Square studios just a few yards away from the set seen by millions of TV viewers when the results are announced.

    After the lottery is completed, those who know the results spend the next 75 or so minutes waiting inside the room for the televised event to take place, laughing at the awkward exchanges and reactions as it unfolds. On this night, the highlight for everyone in the sequestered room was seeing Julius Erving’s face turn into a scowl when the 76ers were given the 10th pick in the draft (completing a previous trade with the Pelicans). Apparently no one told him the Sixers had a chance to win two lottery picks.

    Once the door closed, with the roughly 30 people inside the room — including five journalists — having given up their phones and other devices capable of communicating with the outside world, Jame Dershowitz from the NBA’s legal department took over.


    The secret drama inside the NBA lottery’s pingpong room | New York Post
     
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    Interesting comments by SVG regarding the lack of parity in the league. He complained that the biggest impediment is caps on players salaries, thereby allowing teams to group clusters of star players together. If there were no caps, players wouldn't have as much incentive to sacrifice to play together as they would get way more by going solo.
     
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    All the salary laws that exist are there to protect the owners. Player get shafted more and more every year. All because of the ludicrous contracts that have been handed out over the years which owners have had a little regret over.
     
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    He's arguing this hurts most owners though, by allowing super teams.
     
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    Actually - the biggest difference is marketing - (super)stars make more money from varius ads than salaries. Therefore "big audience" teams have always the edge, regardless of salary cap etc rules.( at the same pond everyone can offer more or less same salary but "incetives" from advertising are the final straw usually). In soccer marketing is the undisputed king - therefore there are huge disparities even in home leagues. But atleast smaller teams hava a nice chance to earm money by selling their prospects to the highest bidder.
     
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    I guess that makes sense. If you have team salary caps, why do you need individual player caps?
     
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    I understand that, but its a trade-off between being burnt by the revenue sharing agreements in place, and leaguewide revenue sharing agreements for the league.

    But the second part of the argument against SVG, is that players still have the same motivation to play together regardless of the salary cap, and you end up in a situation where smart, transcendent players will happily trade salary earnings for a chance to win. The reason for this is because there are significant financial advantages to being a champion. So the same situation will occur - good but not great players will chase big contracts. Removing the salary cap just increases the chance that a huge contract will be awarded to a guy who doesn't deserve it. Contract limits are a form of risk management, combined with hedge options of bird rights, the owners are in a great position.

    Lebron makes probably double his salary each year in endorsements, and winning championships builds his ability to make money beyond his NBA career. Kevin Durant will end up being in the same position, and there are definitely others that you could lump into that position.
     

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