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Discussion in 'Football, Baseball, and Hockey' started by ggazoo69, May 6, 2007.
Good point, bruh.
I assume that the person who gave you those drugs didn't go to prison. Also, you didn't mention anything about your shoe size growing 2 sizes or your head enlarging. How would Bonds not notice these things? He had to buy all new shoes.
EXACTLY!!!! When someone is sticking a needle in you, you ask questions. Barry it’s just b-12, and flaxseed lol. When someone hands you a bottle of pills, you ask what they are. “Their magic Bean stock pills Barry.” GIVE ME A BREAK!
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For those of you who think this record is tainted, you're wrong. Barry said so himself that it isn't tainted. So there. Bonds hits No. 756 to break Aaron's home run record - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
Good enough for me.
He makes a lot of good points. People who live in glass houses, blah, blah blah. Too many friggen hypocrites. Not that anyone on this board is one, but a lot of people are, especially on the subject of taking performance enhancing or body enhancing drugs that are legal at the time taken. Sign Up
Buddha is right about hypocrisy so I'm willing to own up to this. This is really tough for me to admit. I've taken performance enhancers in the past: I once took Ex-Lax to enhance my performance in the bathroom.
I don't like Bonds wether he used steroids or not. Wether he broke the record or not. What happened was an amazing feat. I can honor the accomplishment, but not the man. I grew up with Bobby Bonds and Willie Mays. Both were gentlemen and good ball players. I never liked Barry, even when he was small. I also didn't like Ty Cobb. He was a blantant racist and went into the stands to fight the fans. The personal stories I heard about Cobb made me realise that it's ok to honor the accomplishments without honoring the person. Many people will be concerned about steriod use and the numbers involved. For me, the most important factor is the type of Man the Pro athlete was...........
You must not like Jordan then. I can't stand Jordan based on your argument.
Not really..........Hard to like a man who single-handedly makes more money from Nike than the 4,200 people in the Asian factory that makes his shoes COMBINED..............This was not a tough question........
Yeah, I don't buy Nike products.
I don't get the analogy of a guy going behind the bleachers to drink a red bull before the company softball game. Why wouldn't he just drink them on the bench? And the violinist taking beta blockers? That is a very obscure reference and not really a problem in society. Viagra? Is this really a parallel? Both that and steroids allow a guy to get past 3rd base I guess. The tour de France comparison was valid, but those guys are getting crucified for their drug use. The title was taken away from Landis. And then he wonders why kids who take ritalin before an exam aren't vilified in the same way Bonds is?
That artcle By Kurt Streeter was so off base. Me drinking a Red Bull before a softball game, is like Barry shooting up, then saying he didn't know if he did, then breaking one of the most prized reconds ever. Kurt Streeter needs to look in the mirrior, where does this moron work, and why is he still employed there after that article. (assuming its not a blog)
You ought to be ashamed of yourself!
I wonder if the sweat-shop stigma is slightly misinformed. From what I understand, people working in so-called sweat-shops are making a decent wage for low-class Chinese. We gasp about people working for pennies an hour, but has anybody of those people ever been to China? You can buy an ice cream at McDonalds for 10 cents, buy yourself an entire wardrobe for 2-10$ an article (coats and all) and even travel across the country for less than $40. As I understand, the working conditions need to be improved, but people have crummy working conditions and lousy pay everywhere in China, regardless of the job (unless they are high-powered business people or the like). The cost of living there is also way way less than your average Western nation. Boycotting "sweatshops" or similar actions would just lead eventually to them being shut down, putting hundreds if not thousands of Chinese citizens out of a job. But hey, as long as we sleep better at night, right?
What does that really matter that Jordan makes more money than workers? Good for him. Would you really be sweating how much the workers make if you had an advertising contract with a big sports merchandise manufacturer? Would you give some money back to raise the salaries? Former Home Depot CEO had a $200 million golden parachute package when he was let go. Is that fair? That is just how corporate world operates.
If you're asking me, the answer is yes. If you are asking someone who isn't crazy, the answer is probably no.
Their economy is on the upswing as they break out of their isolation these last hundreds of years. Items, like cars and clothes are being bought in mass quantities now. Their whole infrastructure is changing. I just want the average factory worker in China to have a chance when the prices start their western-like climb.
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