Hunter Back In Rotation

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by buddahfan, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. LA Dre

    LA Dre All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    12,635
    Likes Received:
    1,691
    Location:
    Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    I think he weill be back in uniform before they head west. He just couldn't find it tonight so he didn't suit up....

    We will need him just for the likes of Nash, Deron Williams and AI
  2. buddahfan

    buddahfan Retired from Forum

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    5,361
    Likes Received:
    1
    I think Stuckey's defense needs a lot of work, more than AJ's does.

    Even though it took garbage time to get AJ on the plus side, He was minus 2 or something like that when I went out after the first half, he was our only player tonight who played over 10 minutes and was plus. Herrmann was also plus in less than 10 minutes. That was it.

    :hoops:
  3. adonis

    adonis First Round Draft Pick

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2006
    Messages:
    315
    Likes Received:
    0
    maybe we need him to defend D Wade in the playoffs. :pound::pound::pound:
  4. st8ofmind

    st8ofmind Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    May 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Ottawa County, Mi
    I fully blame the Orlando loss on Hunter altering the rotation.
  5. BillLaimbeer

    BillLaimbeer All-Star 4x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    15,362
    Likes Received:
    3,394
    Location:
    Michigan
    I think the Pistons defense was too focused on stopping Howard. You can't leave those guys wide open shooting threes. You need to stay home on the shooters and throw lots of bodies at Howard. Bring in Primo, if you have to, and use your fouls.
  6. st8ofmind

    st8ofmind Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    May 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Ottawa County, Mi
    I couldn't agree more, I was totally flaking out last night.

    Why go into a zone vs a team that's 5 of 6 from 3?

    Why leave Mo Evans open in the corner? STUPID

    Flip got 5 good minutes out of the bench/young guys and then left them into too long vs a good opponent. I'd rather make howard shoot a tough jump hook than give up a wide open 3 and at best a long rebound.
  7. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    390
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    There were a few things that went wrong. Pistons did pay too much attention to Howard, but you can't expect any team to consistently shoot 13-20 from the 3-point line. If it is 40% (which is a high percentage), then even with crappy Pistons play it is a close game.
  8. st8ofmind

    st8ofmind Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    May 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Ottawa County, Mi
    When the shots start falling, assume they are going to keep making them.

    I believe ORL has the 2nd best 3 point shooting team and when they trot out Hedo, Lewis, Mo Evans, Bogans, you might want to assume the WIDE OPEN shots are going to fall.
  9. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    390
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    You can assume anything, but the facts are facts. They will not keep falling in every game. I am not trying to say that Pistons played adequate D, but if you take their better defensive play with the law of averages in a playoff series, I'll say that 3-point shots shouldn't be a problem.
  10. st8ofmind

    st8ofmind Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    May 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Ottawa County, Mi
    It's seems that 5 out of 6 and 13 out of 20 (which was much worse looking until garbage time) are the facts as well.

    WHY leave the shooters, it's not like D Howard has a sick post game, make him make tough shots. He's not going to get his own like Duncan on the block.

    Give up a tough 2 over a wide open 3 every time.


    Jack Nies was a bigger problem than the Magic last night, between the LA game and that game anybody who thinks he doesn't have something against the pistons is just blind or naive.
  11. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    390
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    Hey, I agree that defense was not up to par. You can't leave shooters consistently open, because they will hit open shots more than they will miss them.
    As far as Nies biatch is concerned, just take it for what it's worth and play through it. It is not like there's something that can be done.
  12. TaS

    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    17,566
    Likes Received:
    2,894
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Chicaaago
    We should avoid double teams until the other team proves that we can't guard a certain player. It really is too bad that Sheed's efforts to limit Howard were wasted by the rest of the team as they were needlessly helping. Howard trying to make a post move is something that we should have welcomed.

    Also, why couldn't we get Dwight out of the lane on the other end? This would have been a perfect game for Sheed and Dyess to spread out the defense and punish them with jumpers until Howard ventured outside the paint.
  13. FreshPrince22

    FreshPrince22 Bench Warmer

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2005
    Messages:
    1,375
    Likes Received:
    7
    If Lindsey is taking Rodney's minutes in the playoffs, I fully expect this team to get bounced in the 2nd round. Lindsey has been given many chances to prove that he can get it done with any kind of consistency in the playoffs. The lowest career playoff FG% in NBA history says it all. It's one thing being a defensive specialist who doesn't do much offensively. It's another thing to be the worst offensive player in NBA playoff history. Especially at the PG position where he has to dominate the ball.

    If he's playing 2 minutes @ SG here and there to get in a star's face it's one thing. If he's running the point for 5-6 minutes at a time, all hope is lost.
  14. TaS

    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    17,566
    Likes Received:
    2,894
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Chicaaago
    Yup.

    Maybe Lindsey can play the emergency 2 instead of Afflalo on occasion with Stuck handling the ball and Lindsey just camping out on the arc.

    Just to add to that thought- Lindsey shot .383 from the wings from 3-point land last year and .282 from everywhere else along the arc. For guys without great range, this shot is much easier from the shorter distance on the side.

    If Lindsey is playing the point, he will be taking 3's from his weakest spots.
  15. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    390
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    Yeah, at this point Lindsey's offensive game is at least as good, and probably is better than AA's. And he'll get a lot more respect from the refs. And he can actually finish around the rim once in a while. So, there's practically no downside.
  16. TaS

    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    17,566
    Likes Received:
    2,894
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Chicaaago
    Would both of these guys really be more effective than Murray?

    :doh:
  17. buddahfan

    buddahfan Retired from Forum

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    5,361
    Likes Received:
    1
    Lindsey has no upside and he hasn't played in almost a year. At his age athletic skills start to decline at an increasing rate. How good will he be this year once he gets rid of the rust? In fact by the time he gets rid of the rust, he may need to take a break for a few games to rest up. :pound:

    :hoops:
  18. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Messages:
    9,495
    Likes Received:
    390
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kiev - Farmington Hills, MI - Santa Clara, CA
    I am not talking about upside, I am talking about spot minutes in the playoffs. Just by getting more respect from the refs, we are coming out on the positive side of things. Afflalo will have plenty of time to play and improve his game. I am sure he'll see some playoff action as well. How much remains to be seen.
  19. buddahfan

    buddahfan Retired from Forum

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    5,361
    Likes Received:
    1
    Getting respect from the referee is one thing, but the referee can't guard Hunter's opponent or shoot and pass the ball for Hunter.

    :hoops:
  20. LA Dre

    LA Dre All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2005
    Messages:
    12,635
    Likes Received:
    1,691
    Location:
    Rancho Cucamonga, CA
    The way the defense has played these past two games, maybe we need to get Hunter suited up :)

Share This Page