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  1. roscoe36

    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

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    The problem is we're playing Stuckey at the 2 and Brandon at the 1. When Stuckey comes in off the bench, he plays the 1 and Brandon becomes our stretch shooter.

    That's when our offense starts to work better.

    Singler doesn't get any plays run for him, and with Brandon and Stuckey on the floor at once, there is very little opportunity for him to do anything on offense except spot up.

    The other thing I think Greg and Kyle suffer from is "good guy syndrome" They want to pass and share the ball. Neither is like a Stuckey or Knight, where they get the ball and assume it's their job to score it right now. They don't have that mindset. Great players figure out when they should pass, and when they should score. I think it is something that will take time to develop.
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    And we all seem to forget how young Greg still is... if his head is in the right spot, he'll be fine.
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    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

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    If monroe and drummond were in next year's draft, who would get picked first?
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    Drummond by a mile, his ceiling is so much higher... in 10 years and we look back, not sure who will have the better career though.
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    Micro, right, Knight looks better receiving the ball to shoot than he does managing an offense. It can be argued that he is young and needs time to learn the point but his current skill set doesn't show that. Could be. But we heard that before on Stuckey. Stuckey is not a point guard and he is not a shooter but he is running the Piston offense better than anyone else there. That is a real problem which is why the organization must draft or trade for a point by next year.
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    Stuckey is just driving. He's not really running an offense out there. His drives create assist opportunities too, which is basically how he's racking them up.

    Perfect for a 6th man and a closer.
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    A rotation. Probably a repeat or very close at least to a previous one. I really don't keep track.

    Start Knight, English, Singler, Monroe, Drummond

    2nd unit is Stuckey, Middleton, Daye, Macklin, Kravtsov

    Other 3 who are dressed and could see some playing time. Tay, JMAX
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    When Drummond takes over the starting position, it makes a lot of sense to bring Kravtsov in as a backup C and have Maxiell be the backup PF.


    Re: Tay above

    SF is the only position where the Piston rank in the top 10 in PER differential.
    NBA Team by Position stats
    Here is our rankings at each position:
    PG- 20th
    SG- 25th
    SF- 6th
    PF- 27th
    C- 12th

    PF is our biggest weakness, closely followed by SG.

    We are slightly below average at PG and slightly above at C.

    SF is our strength so far according to this measure.

    The reason is that Prince actually has an enormous production advantage over his counterparts so far this year (surprisingly). It's mainly because the players that he is guarding aren't producing. Dare I say, good defense? He's holding his man to about half the production of anyone else on the team.
    Detroit Pistons NBA stats and data from 82games.com


    By the way, Maggette's production is horrible. The worst.
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    I enjoyed watching this one. A win woulda been nice but I think this game was damn good for the team in the long run.
    Lots of time for Monroe/Drummond playing together = good.
    Drummond getting some run against Roy Hibbert = good.

    Singler might not be scoring but he's still doing other things to help the team. He fights for rebounds, plays decent defense and keeps the freaking ball moving. He's a 2nd rounder and prolly shouldn't be starting in the NBA but he's the type of guy that can be essential to a championship team. He'll sub into the game and give you some mistake-free basketball and be a calming influence to a 2nd unit.

    I really dug the play in the 2ndQ when he had the ball on the wing and called Monroe over to set a screen for him so he could take David West off the dribble for an easy lefty layup. It's a simple chess move on Kyle's part to recognize that the Pacers were switching on all picks and that if Greg set a simple screen, he'd end up with an easy drive. It's the kind of situation that Rodney Stuckey will likely never be able to recognize and Kyle does it in his first year in the league.

    BK will get better.
    We still need a starting SG.
    We still need a starting SF.
    Monroe needs to make himself into a PF (extend his range, get quicker on D)
    Drummond will be money at Center.
    Singler can be awesome backing up the 2-3 spots.

    ...BTW, this quote was awesome:
    To sum up: A new SG, SF, coach, GM and owner and we're on our way!
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    Macklin?
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    Yup.
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    Macklin and Tripucka.
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    I'm still upset that they don't play Glinny. How clueless can you be?
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    Tashawn and BDL, good posts. On Macklin, he is available. A poor mans Drummond. Can't shoot from afar, but is a presence around the basket. Not expecting much from him except not to be a Maxiell type who so often spectates from far below the action.
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    They were, except Andre Drummond's name was-Derrick Favors.
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    I'm sure there is a reason Macklin is available. If you can't make it in the Turkish league, then perhaps you need to find a new career path.
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    Macklin is to Drummond what Will Bynum is to Chris Paul.

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