Is Jason Next?

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by dozero, Jul 13, 2009.

  1. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    According to some sources he's pretty much guaranteed a roster spot.
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    dozero First Round Draft Pick

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    Well, look at Washington. Is Agent Zero a PG? I don't think so. Gordon playing the point (not that I'm looking forward to it) with his skillset and Rip running around coming off screens will cause alot of problems for the other team. It's what IMO they envisioned with Stuckey. He's just not a consistent scoring treat so team play off him.

    If anyone is expendable it's Prince (We have a boat load of SF that can give us something right now). Matter of fact...

    Has the Zach for Q trade been made official? Clippers are always money conscience: Prince for Kaman.
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    Bingo. Why would Joe have signed Gordon if he even thought for a nano second that Rip would be on the team on opening night? I just don't get it. If we still were able to move Rip for Chandler (or another C), that would be great, but I hate the direction we're going in if he doesn't. Rip as the veteran leader, combined with him having a 55Million dollar backup is going to lead to trouble. And even if Joe moves him mid-season, the damage will be done. Our young core will be infected by it.
  4. dozero

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    True, but if the Boozer deal went down, we'd be in the market for a 5.

    A real (if there is such a thing nowadays) Center. We STILL have to contend with Shaq and Howard and let's not forget about the three headed monster in Boston.

    Prince contract is one year less then Kaman's

    Stuckey / Bynum
    Rip / Gordon
    Daye / Jerebko / Summers (in no order)
    Boozer / Charlie
    Kaman / Kawame

    and rounding out things: Washington (guaranteed contract), Plaisted and Jones (back up big
  5. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    Boozer plays the same spot as Lee, he's not a center. At this point, based on all that I've been reading Lee is healthier and has more character. He'd be a long-term player. On the other hand, Boozer is a proven all-star with expiring contract, which will make Pistons a player on the FA market next season. It is a game of give and take with those two.
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    Lee is just a hustle player. He's not worth CV money, and he's not worth more.

    The way I see it, Joe is not making any more longterm commitments unless it is to top tier talent.

    You don't sign a Lee, in a market where no one is pursuing him, when you can get a Boozer, and clear the money off the books next year, and either re-sign Boozer cheap, or go after someone else.

    The NBA is facing the realities of salary cap deflation. It's ugly, and everyone is scared. No one wants to sign anyone unless they are very sure about them. Talked about this on the podcast last night. 2 years ago, Lee is signed by July 2nd for $9 million. This offseason, guys like Odom and Lee will be lucky to get $7 million if anything.

    Next year will be an even bigger bloodbath if the cap falls to $50 million. Cap space is king right now.
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    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    This may be true. Especially with Summers' play at the Summer League.
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    Ernie the Slow Adult All-Star Forum Donor

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    5 20 pt scorers with no one to get them the ball = bad times!
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    Position be damned.

    Boozer in a contract year (expiring) is better than any possible short term solution at C that we could get. I'd rather roll with two skilled PFs and be a little "out-sized" than stick some stiffy out there just because he happens to be 7' tall.

    Heck, if Joe and coach K decide that they need a big dude to get in the way, you can always find some hack in the D-league to sit on the end of the bench and go in there and hack the crap out of "The Big Mistake".

    ...Oh, and for an 11 mil lockdown deal, Tyson Chandler sucks butt cheeks!
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    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    Hold on. Aren't there like towel and ball boys there or something?
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    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

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    You don't need anyone to get them the ball. Whoever has it, is a 20 PPG scorer!
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    Plus, it's not like those seven footers are lining up at the front door.
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    Sooooooooooooooooooooooo a rookie in the starting 5 while Joe's top two FA pick-ups come off the bench? Somehow I feel Joe's got other plans.
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    First Arenas is a more PG then Ben will ever be.Second PO doesn't need a real PG.And our new coach won't play the PO so Ben being PG=fail.And if we go with Ben going PG so why we need Stuckey?If we don't trade RIP now our chances to trade him again will go in smokes,becouse no one will take RIP contract.
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    If we don't trade him now? I agree that I would like him traded but who is actually angling for Rip? What team, rumored or otherwise, has been itching for a Rip Hamilton? I highly doubt that Joe D is keeping Rip around for his so called coveted shooting skills. Truth of the matter is if Rip could be move in such a way that is beneficial to our team then I am sure it will be done. If I hear about a potential trade that would benefit our team with Rip moving and Joe turns it down then I will be angry but I'm likelier to believe I will never be put in that position 'cause there is no team that wants a 4 year contract for a 31 year SG at 12 mil a year that is not a superstar.
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    I have a hunch about what is going on, and it is not Boozer. Maxiell + cap space is not enough for Boozer. It's not enough for anyone worth trading for IMO.

    Now Rip + Max + cap space?

    Max player.

    Bosh can be signed to an extension at 12:01 AM tonight (Tues morning).

    CV's enthusiasm, + Bosh timing, + capacity to clear guard space and moving Max....

    It is possible. Perhaps not likely, but I'm getting a vibe from this.

    It would make Tay our oldest player. It would probably make us the most talented young team in the NBA.
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    word :brick:
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    Now THAT is what I'm talkin bout!!!!!!!

    You don't get rid of Afflalo unless you absolutely positively need to clear a certain amount of space for a specific blockbuster trade.

    I'm back on the Joe D bandwagon!
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    Maybe we could go after Iverson and offer him the minimum.

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