Sorry, but I'm not sure what my being "new" has to do with anything ... I am sure the "Okur situation" has been discussed, debated or whatever to no end. However, it still doesn't change the fact that Okur became an unrestricted free agent after only 2 years because Joe D only signed him to a 2 year contract (instead of the standard 3 yr min deal). Thus Joe D put himself in a position to have Okur walk ala BigBen. As for Mike James, I've never considered him a "loss". I liken his situation to Max's in the sense that I don't think it would hurt us if he left. He can be replaced just as Mike James was. Now, what are the chances that Joe would not have traded Corliss if he had known Ben would walk?