Joe D's Draft Record

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  1. buddahfan

    buddahfan Retired from Forum

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    The Good

    Okur 2001 - 2nd round #9
    Prince 2002 - 1st round #23
    Delfino 2003 - 1st round #25
    Maxiell 2005 - 1st round #26
    Johnson 2005 - 2nd round #26

    The Bad

    DMC 2003 - 1st round #2 (Bad for that position pick in the draft)
    Cardinal 2000- 2nd round #15

    The Ugly

    Cleaves 2000 - 1st round #14
    White 2001 - 1st round #9
    Gliniadakis 2003 - 2nd round #29
    Paulding 2004 - 2nd round #25
    Blalock 2006 - 2nd round #30


    The Unknown
    Acker 2005 2nd round #30
    XXXX 2007 1st round
    XXXX 2007 2nd round

    :hoops:

    Paulding - 2004
    The Unknown
  2. bricalz

    bricalz First Round Draft Pick

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    Ok....Hmm

    I disagree with Cardinal. I think he was a reasonable pick. The guy worked hard and hard work we all appreciate.

    Glinny was a project pick. We all knew that. Aw c'mon, you truly don't expect all our picks to play right? We got to have somebody like Amir stashed away. Glinny could have been that. But I think he was a reasonable 2nd rounder.

    Blalock and Acker? Well, what do you expect to get that deep in the 2nd round?

    DMC, turned out BAD but was a good pick at the time.

    Cleaves was a bad pick and so was White.
  3. Darth Tater

    Darth Tater All-Star Forum Donor 6x Fantasy Champion

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    You make a good point. His picks really aren't bad. The utilization of those picks are what stink! Maybe he was just a victim of soicomstance!:stooges:
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    I'm not feeling any disrespect either, but I'm ready for a Sally, Rodman kind of draft..................:pound:
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    BillLaimbeer All-Star 4x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    I would move:

    Darko to the ugly
    Cardinal to the good
    Acker to the unknown
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    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

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    Isn't Acker currently in the unknown category?

    I personally feel like we have a pretty good idea of what kind of player he is at this point. Same with AJ. The next step is actually incorporating them into our plans.
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    AcRight is killing in Euro, might want to check that.
    Samb was a trade.
  9. 16 Mile

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    Joe's picks for the most part have been good, it's what happens to the players afterwards that's the problem. We have totally mishandled almost every pick except for Tay.

    But for pure hindsight draft day picking, you have to move Darko to ugly(please don't revoke my DHOF card) because of who he was picked ahead of. Though we'd be better now, you have to wonder if we win a title that year if we had rookie versions of Wade, Carmello, or Bosh competing for minutes.

    Cardinal to good, any production out of a 2nd rounder is good.

    And JMax to bad, only for being picked ahead of David Lee.
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    You make a good point. I like Lee's game a lot also.

    :hoops:
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    Lee is tough, especially his half-court shots. Makes them every time.
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    You mean the half court "put backs" he grabs.

    :hoops:
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    dmc was a great pick. he is what we need for years to come. sheed is aging, dice is aging, dale davis has aged, jmax is too small, amir is a small forward. he's a big guy that can defend duncan, bosh, j. oneal, okafur, okur, kaman. he's the best defender out of all of those guys mentioned that makes him a bad pick. he's also an unselfish team player. he was perfect for the pistons and would be perfect for them to make a run at now during free agency. he's doing well in orlando even though he's put on weight to play out of position on the low blocks. dmc was not a bad pick.
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    Dudes, as unpopular as this is bball is right... DMC is gonna be a beast down low... he's still got his head up his arse on defensive assignments though.
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    bricalz First Round Draft Pick

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    Yup, DMC should be moved to the WE'LL NEVER KNOW HOW HE WOULD HAVE DONE IN A PISTONS UNIFORM Category.

    I was all for the pick then, and still would have done the same now with what we knew then of course. But I would have picked Bosh had we known what we know now.

    JMax is still up in the air. So is Amir.

    Acker, well, he won't supplant Rip at the 2. And he won't be a point guard. I think he'd be a so-so bench player at best. Will Blalock should develop a shot first. Paulding is a memory.

    I think Joe managed his picks OK. We would not have kept Okur. He wanted out.

    It's when to put the kids into the pan that's taking longer than expected as the veterans are still there. Davis will go so that'll free up a spot for Amir. Where will we put our picks? Hunter's retiring?

    The way I look at it, there is no spot for Acker here. Especially if we get good draft picks.
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    I absolutely believe that no matter who we picked, LB would have ruined them, and like Darko would have demanded a trade.

    Imagine LB trying to force Bosh into a down low post up center and playing him behind Darvin. Imagine Carmello getting DNP after DNP because of his lack of D. And imagine D Wade complaining about only getting 15 minutes a game playing behind CB.

    The only difference is we would have gotten more for the trade than we got with Darko.
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    I'm not sure we've touched on this before, but is a guy really a good draft choice if you have to use the #2 pick on him knowing full well that he isn't going to be able/allowed to contribute for at least 4 years or so?

    I mean, even if Darko was on par with Wade, Mello, or Bosh right now, would it really have been worth it to wait this long?

    I mean, even if you THOUGHT a player was going to be the next Jordan...is it worth the wait & the risk?

    4 FREAKIN" years is a LONG time!


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    Didn't get passing on Mello but other than that Detroit's draft catastrophies pale compared to those of some other teams.
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    dba All-Star Moderator 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    According to Hoopsanalyst the average length of the career of #2 picks is between seven and eight years. So yeah, if it takes over half your pick's career just to get into the game, then perhaps not the best possible choice.

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