Joe Dumars Interview: "Foundation of Winning"

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  1. Nemo

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    I really agree with your insight.........Blaming Flip was easy.
     
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    At the same time - you can't put blame fully on JD either: JD simply had no experience, how to handle situation like this and...for understanding only personal experience helps.
     
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    Maybe Joe D regretted firing Larry Brown. As it was Bill D's decision, he has to keep it to himself. That's is why he has to stop the interviewer from taking this further. If Larry was still the coach in 2006, we could won the whole thing again. And Big Ben would not have left for the Bulls after winning that year. And we could have repeat in 2007.....
     
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    I can't really blame him for Larry Brown. Not like they randomly woke up one day and decided to fire him. Esp when one of the parties took away an extra 15 mil or so if he got fired rather than quitting. Its his replacement that you can slam him for as there was nothing that indicated winner about Flip Saunders even back then.

    Dumars has made far too many mistakes over the the past few years. I will give him the ownership thing where he was told not to change the teams salary structure for 2 years. But now the shackles have been removed and I will be dissapointed if March 15 comes and goes without the Pistons at the very least in the center of serious trade discussions.
     
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    Prepare to be dissapointed max.
    In order to make a trade, you have to have items that other teams want to trade for.
    For the most part, Joe has tainted every single asset that he has by attaching a horrible contract to it. We're absolutely stuck with what we have unless you're talking about swapping Knight, Monroe or Jeb.

    Maybe we find a taker for Will Bynum or Austin Daye but I'm not holding my breath.
    (even Will Bynum is overpaid)
     
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    I thin Tay and JJ have some value - I would trade JJ in a sec. Possibly Bynum. And dare I say this summers pick. I would trade that for the right player
     
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    Agreed.
    Trading our #1 would have to yield a pretty solid player in return. Someone with a better than 50% chance of becoming an all-star.
     
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    I always thought that trading away 1st round picks....was a desperate act by a desper..........oh...nevermind.
     
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    Somebody needed to lay a foul on him instead of just letting him get to the rim like that.
     
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    Interesting...he titles this movement a "foundation of winning".....
    Wonder what he calls the fall 2008 to January 2012 movement....
    Also, no comment about Frank not being his guy when the hiring process was ongoing.
     
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    Digging a hole big enough for a solid foundation.
     
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    ______________________________________________________________

    I was going to say, in response to the death of his brothers, that it hit a bit of a personal note. When I was under the pressure of family tragedy, aside from the dark hole that I found myself (and I have my friends to thank for pulling me out), was that success was just so hard to come by, and bad decisions so easy. No matter what I tried, or how hard, there was just this invisible hand which forced me to fail, and that decision making mechanism, which up until that point was so reliable, failed in spectacular fashion.

    But it only took one big success to get me going again. In my case, it was a new job, and once that one good thing which had happened to me as a result of my hard work, the ball started rolling. Maybe JD is still stuck in that rut, and it may just take one great push, one great move and resulting success to pull this team, and him, back onto the straight and narrow.

    I have a lot of bad things to say about JD's decisions, but with that information on board, I find it very difficult to hold him purely accountable. I sincerely hope that a light shines just for him, and (hopefully) subsequently this team.
     
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    yeah that's kind of like having a tough home life and not taking that angst to work.
     
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    A new job could actually be what Joe needs to let go of his investments and start thinking from scratch again.
     

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