Josh Smith or Greg Monroe?

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by webz, Jul 17, 2014.

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What is your preference?

  1. Keep Smith (3yrs/$14m)

    54.2%
  2. Keep Monroe (approx 5yrs/$12m)

    45.8%
  1. webz

    webz All-Star Snub Administrator 2x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    I think we need to start pinning our names to the wall on this.

    Do you believe SVG can be the one to get the best out of Smith? Or is he a lost cause? Is his contract really an albatross? If Monroe is gone and Smith can play his natural 4, will he become that all-star player?

    Has Monroe reached his ceiling? Will he ever become a decent defender? Will he be overpaid? Can he become an all-star?

    Smith still has 3 years left on his contract @ $14m per season. I will make an estimation for Monroe on a 5 year contract @ $12m per season.

    Of course there are many variables still in play... we could get back other players in trades, etc but assuming Monroe gets a deal like the above, if you had to make a decision today on one or the other... from a purely basketball/contract/future of the team standpoint, who would you rather keep?
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    LA Dre All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    I say sign Monroe and trade him, Bynum and Smith to T-Wolves for KLove... In other words, don't let the Cavs become bigger than life with the addition of Love.
    The only issue is KL would probably leave us next season.....unless we somehow get to the second round :bs:

    Realistically the only way I would keep Smith is if he had an about face over the summer and decided to change his game & give up the three ball shooting. That may only happen of course if Moose is gone and we got other shooters that JS believes can make the three. Bob Ryan on Around the Horn today called him a "useless player who plays as if the headband covers his eyes half the time".

    Moose has become a predictable stiff who still hasn't mastered the dunk or figured out how to score underneath the hoop. Don't we have any Jason Maxiell or Corliss Williamson tapes in the palace basement to show him??
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    kpaav Team Captain Forum Donor

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    Smith-Drummond frontcourt is better. Smith's shooting at the PF spot is a plus (as long as he does much less) and these two complement each other well. Defenmsively it looks like it would work better. also, I don't like Monroe's slow game, his complaining and also that he thinks he is elite - he isn't.
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  4. BillLaimbeer

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    I voted for Monroe, but I'm not really sure why I did. The three bigs cannot be on the floor at the same time and it just doesn't make sense to have a team in which only 2 of your top 3 players can be on the court at any given time. One of them needs to go.
  5. Laimbrane

    Laimbrane All-Star Forum Donor

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    I think Smith is the more natural PF. I've stated before that Monroe is the better trade bait. Let his agent "convince" Detroit to only sign him for two years (when the new TV contract kicks in and salaries start climbing) and then move his wonderful contract to a surprise contender in a few months.
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    The failure of 3-big rotation and JS's jacking up from the arc were mainly on environment that created by coaching.
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    Both or neither of them.
    I'll keep Smith as a starting 4. Make him shoot no more than 1 or 2 three pointers per game.
    Monroe as a 6th man.
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    brofmfa Bench Warmer Forum Donor

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    Would like to give 120 "likes" if I could.
    The team will be 120 times better with either Monroe or Drummond on the bench.
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    I think what you see now is Monroe's ceiling. Maybe he adds a serviceable jumpshot from the free throw line. Maybe he gets slightly better on defense away from the post. But he is never going to be a plus defender, and he is never going to be consistently doubled on any team other than the Pistons.

    What we saw from Josh Smith last year was quite literally his worst year of production ever. Defensively and offensively he was atrocious, jacking up 3 after 3 and getting lost against more agile guys on the perimeter.

    Having said that, I still think Smith is a better fit and a better overall player with the right coach. Monroe is a half court set guy, who can't play in transition and can't defend. Transition points are still the best points in the league and everyone should chase them. Smith fits that build. Look at the rest of our team - Drummond is probably the only centre in the NBA who could pick pocket DWade on the perimeter and then go all the way to the other end. Meeks is one of the fastest players in the league. KCP has jets. Jennings gets to full speed in an instant. I said this last year but Cheeks let me down, this team is now built to strip and run.

    Of course the obvious exception is Caron Butler.
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    I would keep Smith. I think Drummond Smith has a lot of potential but Monroe Smith just doesn't work and it never will.
  11. Ernie the Slow Adult

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    Monroe all day. Last year was the best year Smith will have in Detroit. He will age in dog years.

    The team, Jennings included, never looked better than they did the last 5 games of the year when Smith was out.
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    Come the trade deadline we'll be wishing we could get Jason Thompson and Derrick Williams for Smith.
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    Other GMs around the league seem to see something you do not with Monroe.
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    Keep them both. You don't just let assets walk.
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    Seriously though, I'd love to see what SVG can do with the pair. Otherwise, I think Smith is a better player despite one awful year. Give it a chance with a good coach.
  16. Ernie the Slow Adult

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    They don't appear to be beating down the door to get Smith either.
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    Let's say they keep Smith and lose Monroe. What's the plan if/when Drummond gets in foul trouble, a heavy dose of A-Gray?
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    With Monroe, a team could offer him ANY sort of deal (but no team has yet).

    With Smith, you are stuck with him for 3 years and $42 million.
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    If the Pistons had half a brain and weren't so terribly run all these years, they could be just like the Hornets.
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    Ernie sometimes your pessimism is very close to "not believing". :cheeky-smiley-012:
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