Kirilenko for Tay Straight up?

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    Only ones crying would be Piston fans when he misses half of next season due to injury.
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    Looks like AK47 wants out of Utah so bad that he's willing to void his entire contract.

    ESPN - Report: Kirilenko 'ready' to give up $63M contract - NBA

    Hmmm a potentially inexpensive shot blocker that can score. The plot thickens....

    If he does manage to void his contract, don't look for him to sign a huge deal anywhere anytime soon. Not with comments like this:
    His agent must be rolling over in his Armani suit! Talk about putting your foot in your agents mouth! Doesn't he know his agent has a family to feed?
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    Based on this rationale, let's get rid of Sheed, too: "Sheed left Horry, Sheed left Horry, Sheed left Horry."

    If you're going to pick one negative thing to focus on and not look at the overall effect, that's fine. Just do it for everyone, including Ben Wallace, who had little to no offensive game and is horrible from the free-throw line. But the overall effect Wallace had on the Pistons was great. Great defensive presence. I think the overall effect Tay has had on the Pistons is great, too. Glad Dumars agrees with me.
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    I don't like the Tay/Kiri trade, but leaving Horry and ducking LBJ are no where near the same thing.

    The former was at least an error of commission.
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    Bingo.
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    Yeah, and it just may have cost the Pistons a title. No biggie though.
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    Seems like a bit of a weirdo, but I'd still like to see him play for us.

    He's gonna go somewhere.

    Roscoe, what are the rules on mutually dissolving a contract? Does the CBA not allow that?
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    It is an intriguing prospect to say the least. But if he voids the contract, Utah would have more suitors for him that may offer something more than Pistons.
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    If Utah releases him, then he is like a free agent, right? So, his salary would drop off their books and he'd be free to go anywhere?

    No other teams would have room to offer him much, so he'd have to sign a 1 year contract at close to the minimum. Then next year he'd be a true free agent again?
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    I'd much rather be in a position to have the title in question than to be humiliated before you can even get there by running away from the play.
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    Maybe so. Players will always make mistakes. I'd just rather live with them making the effort and failing than not making the effort.
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    You cannot mutually agree to dissolve a contract.
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    I was wondering about that. I guess making grand gestures about taking less money to play is pretty easy when they're meaningless.
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    Per Se.

    The bigger question would be how much (what percentage) of the remainder of a players contract needs to remain in the negotiation of a buyout.

    If both parties can mutually agree on a buyout that equates to, lets say $1 mil wouldn't that in the context of his current contract be pretty close to "dissolving" it?
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    The full amt would still count against Utahs cap.
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    Exactly.

    Sheed left Horry with the intentions of winning on his mind. It was a mental lapse on his part, though interestingly enough I believe he left Horry to cover Tayshauns man.


    When Tay ducked for cover and ran like the bombs were dropping I doubt "winning" was prevalent anywhere in his mind.

    Most likely he was hoping that no yearn made it's way to the outside of his uniform.
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    60. of RealGMs faq says the salary that counts is the agreed upon buyout spread out over the the remaining years of the original contract.

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    It wouldn't be mutually dissolved, but since the contract year is not guaranteed (Jan 10th, 2008) I don't see why they couldn't negotiate a zero buyout amount and agree to waive compensation protection.

    This is HIGHLY unlikely, and being spoken by an emotional player.

    But IMO, it could be done.
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    Ginobli made a perfect pass...and Sheed almost tipped it out of bounds.

    If Sheed made any mistake, it wasn't choosing to double Ginobli and help Tay...it was playing too far off Horry before the inbound.

    YouTube - NBA Finals 2005: Horry's Detroit Dagger
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    The Pistons entire team collectively ducked and ran for cover against the Cavs.

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