Kirilenko for Tay Straight up?

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  1. Slippy

    Slippy All-Star Administrator Forum Donor

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    Also involved is the waivers factor. I think at this point you have to waive him at his full salary. If a team swoops in and picks him up you get cap space and nothing else. If no team claims him, you can buy him out. and get cap space and nothing else.

    in related news, realgm has an article where deron criticizes AK's work ethic. they should trade ak for crash and morrison.
  2. buddahfan

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    Kirilenko will not become a Piston:

    If he doesn't want to play Sloan's structured offense what makes anyone think he would want to play Flip's structured offense.

    There are also other reasons that Kirilenko will not be in a Piston uniform.

    Jazz F Andrei Kirilenko still wants to be traded away from Utah - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

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    As Russians say no one can understand or predicts Russians. So no surprise with Kirilenko's comments. But I think his wife will talk him back to his senses. If Jazz can't trade him, they should try and be more accomodative towards AK - give him more shots per game, hire offensive coach, hire shooting coach, sabotage internet connection at his home (he is an avid player of World of Warcraft).

    Of course, it's really stupid for a team to try and motivate a player after they paid him tons of money, but that's what you get with guaranteed contracts.
  4. roscoe36

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    That is the correct protocol.

    The buyout agreement is reached prior to the player going on waivers.

    Then the player is put on waivers, and if he clears, then the buyout comes into effect.

    @Cloud et al, I'm quite sure there are no restrictions on how low a buyout may be. Not 100%, but very sure.
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    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    I am going to have to disagree on this one.

    Have a nice day.


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    I knew you were going to say that. You're so predictable. ;)
  7. CloudWalker

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    Flex isn't as structured as some offenses can be. Compared to the type of plays Cola used to run it would practically be the antithesis of structure.
    I say practically since it is structured in a sense- technically any play that has a diagram has a structure- however there are degrees of said structure and in Flip's dynamic no position in particular is ever predetermined to shoot the ball when Flex is run in it's purest form.

    I feel that a better way to assess Kirilenko's position is not that he has a problem with structure, but rather that he has an issue with Sloan's offense being structured in such a way that Andrei is not intended to be a scorer with the basketball.
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    roscoe36 All-Star Administrator

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    Is it just me, or do players tend to complain when the talent level around them increases, and they have to share the ball/shots?

    I'm sure folks can come up with some examples.
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    I was wondering about that. The guy has been there for a few years so why now?
  10. Dlev59

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    If that`s the case, watching the Boston Celtics should be very interesting...............
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    That will be interesting. They are all experienced veterans who at one time had to share the ball so that will be a big plus.

    Pierce had Walker who never saw a shot he did not like taking. Allen played with Lewis and some other scorers. Garnet was on some good teams. So it should work out for them if they can all take the 40 or so MPG that they will have to play.
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    Allen's ankles are shot

    32 years old. How long before one or both of his ankles force him to the sidelines? People are just dreaming if they think this is the same Ray Allen as 5 years ago. He will be lucky to play 1,800 minutes this year.

    When Allen goes out with an injury, then what happens to the Celtics? Pruitt better be ready, but being a Trojan I am sure he will be.

    Ray Allen NBA Basketball at CBS SportsLine.com

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    All true.

    That is a good thing they all have in common; they can be the man, or defer to someon else.

    They all have playoff experience, Pierce and Garnett reaching the Conference Finals.

    IMO, the big three will be ok, it`s the role players that will detrmine the success or lack thereof for the Celtics.
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  16. detteam

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    Yeah, but it still leaves us short a center unless Webber or DD are coming back for peanuts.
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    jammertime Starter 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    I'd argue that with or without Nazr on the roster we're short at C.

    If I was offered that deal, I'd give that trade serious consideration.
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    Even if Pistons would like to go through with this, would Utah?
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    detteam All-Star

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    I see Nazr as the glass half full. The Spurs were able to win with him...why couldn't the Pistons? No...he's not a dominant center, but he is serviceable.

    The expectations placed on the guy were pretty high after Ben left. I'm willing to give him another shot...I think every Pistons fan should.

    Tay for AK...? I'm not completely sold on that idea...I'm still weighing the pluses & minuses of each of them.
  20. jammertime

    jammertime Starter 1x Fantasy Champion Forum Donor

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    I pretty much agree with that. I think Nazr can be serviceable, but the real question is, will Flip actually use him?

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