Latest On The Josh Smith Trade

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by armygirl, Jul 21, 2008.

  1. detteam

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    Tay & Amir for J Smith qualifies IMO
  2. Mike Honcho

    Mike Honcho First Round Draft Pick

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    I really like Amir but I don't see him in the same light as J.O. IMO he will always be an energy/hustle guy coming off the bench. There is nothing wrong with that, but 4mil is a lot of money for it, esp when we already have Maxi doin the same thing.
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    Tay & Amir make $10+ mil between them two. J Smith's salary, even if it is around $12 mil only counts as $6 mil for the trade purposes. That's why there's a problem. Maybe asset wise it could work, but salary cap wise - another story.
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    therefore - forget this trade.
  5. TheeTFD

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    Rax, what hasn't exploded for Grizz is points against.
    And he had 2 injury stints last season.
  6. Stuckey.And1

    Stuckey.And1 First Round Draft Pick

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    not really, just add more players from the hawks side.

    i am uncertain if you can package people in sign and trade deals though anybody know?
  7. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    What players? That would put Pistons way into the luxury tax bracket.
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    Top tier team with a cap of a middling team... gahh...

    it's all good though; after all, that means Billy D gets to pocket a check at the end of each year! :yellowprison:
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    anakin First Round Draft Pick

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    Mr. Davidson is worth ~$3.5B, the Piston's operating income is in the $40M range. It is a drop in the bucket of his vast fortune. The check he pockets is chump change.
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    Also consider that Bill is realistically looking at a short timeframe going forward in life. If he is saving money now, I think that it is more out of principal... or collusion with the other owners rather than for personal gain. It seems like the owners are a club and the unspoken rule is that you don't go into the luxury tax area. Isiah and Cuban are not part of the club.
  11. Mike Honcho

    Mike Honcho First Round Draft Pick

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    You don't go into luxury tax land because it is stupid money. If you are paying a guy 10 mil you are actually handing out what... 15mil I think, or maybe its 20mil (too lazy to look it up right now). Thats NUTS! Not too many players worth that.
  12. mikhail1973

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    Anything that's over salary cap is taxed $1 for $1.
  13. Mike Honcho

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    So 20mil for a 10mil player who probably isn't worth 7mil!
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    Well, and you will miss out on any of the tax money which is distributed back to the teams not paying luxury tax.

    In the Knicks/Mavs hay day, a team could get back as much as $6 or $7 million in luxury tax sharing by staying UNDER the tax level, an added incentive for keeping salaries under control!
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    The luxury tax has created a socialist like state in the NBA. The Josh Childress Greek signing is proof of this. Free market value for for him was greater than the MLE, yet due to the restrictions he had to look elsewhere. Hopefully this starts a trend and forces ownership and the league to either loosen up the restrictions or curb star player salaries.
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    This was a tool to control salaries from getting out of hand. Imagine the salary that LeBron would've asked for coming into NBA if there were no predetermine rookie slots. Then the Knicks of the NBA would've been able to outbid everyone for the best players without any consequences. It's a catch-22.
  18. Mike Honcho

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    I agree. Cap does more good than harm. It does suck seeing a talented player leave for more money elsewhere but seriously, this guy was the 6th man for the Hawks!
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    You mean like the Yankees?
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    In case you need a refresher, the Hawks beat the Celtics more games than Detroit did! Josh Choldress was a quality talent. That's why the story of him going to Greece was so newsworthy. Definately worth more than the mid level. You have to take into account that a lot of these high salaries are based on not only talent but potential.

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