Latest On The Josh Smith Trade

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  1. G-man

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    Collusion

    Hey TFD, from the CBA Agreement.

    4. What is the Collective Bargaining Agreement?

    "It's the contract between the league and the Players Association that sets up the rules by which they all operate. (It's commonly abbreviated as "CBA," which is not to be confused with the Continental Basketball Association. The abbreviation CBA will be used in the remainder of this document.)

    The CBA defines the salary cap, the procedures for determining how it is set, the minimum and maximum salaries, the rules for trades, the procedures for the NBA draft, and a hundred other things that need to be defined in order for a league like the NBA to function.


    Incidentally, the CBA is also what prevents the NBA from being in violation of antitrust laws. Many of the NBA's practices (salary cap, draft, etc.) would violate the Sherman act were the CBA not arrived at through collective bargaining."


    But the kicker is two thirds of the bargaining is via the NBA & Owners and just one third is Players Union. Since the NBA and owners control all of the games infrastructure (read league owned NBDL) the players have no viable alternative (leverage) to market their services in the USA.
    That sound like a good faith negotiating position you'd like to be in?


    As an aside; the Players Union had the option of buying the Continental Basketball Association from Zeke in the back in 2004 when he owned it.
    That's the real reason he bought it.


    That would've given them much better leverage to negotiate a fairer CBA as they would've had a viable alternative by playing in that league, in those arenas with all the associated revenue from parking lots, vendors etc. They could've broken Sterns growing stranglehold.
    Thats when Stern announced he was going to form the NBDL and they got cold feet. Now they have to live with that crappy decision.
  2. CloudWalker

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    What isn't happening?

    Are you saying the dollar won't crash further than it already has or that it won't totally collapse?

    I don't believe Stuckey.And1 was necessarily stating the latter.
  3. coynejeremy

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    It may sink further and probably will because the media is spoonfeeding us depression stew, but I think prophecies of doom are overly emotional.
  4. KP

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    My bet would be that Josh didn't come up with this idea, but rather it was his agent that orchestrated the concept.
  5. Hobbs

    Hobbs First Round Draft Pick

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    "There are at least two, blockbuster sign-and-trade proposals the Hawks are chewing on regarding Smith (one from a Western Conference power and the other from an Eastern Conference big dog) that could dramatically change the landscape in Hawksville."

    Switching lanes | Hawks | ajc.com

    No idea who the western conference team is, but I bet we can all guess the eastern conference one.
  6. lpgrl26

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    Tay for Smith :fingerscr

    edited to add;
    supposedly the WS team is Golden State
  7. roscoe36

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    You mean, teams could freely bid for his services, assuring he got the most money possible for his talent? The CBA intentionally punishes rookies to maintain higher salaries for the veterans.

    Wonderful post. Excellent analysis.

    We're happy to have you here.
  8. roscoe36

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    Be honest. You just wanted to post "strong dong".

    Don't bet your life on that position. The odds are not in your favour.
  9. roscoe36

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    Re: Collusion

    Exceptionally strong posts on the CBA G-man. Thank you!
  10. Ernie the Slow Adult

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    Wow, BOS is going after Smith........
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    That's just mean Ernie. Just plain mean. How could you forget about Cleveland?
  12. Stuckey.And1

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    the oil spike isn't whats causing the low value of the dollar, its inflation. its important that americans understand this. or maybe its not, because we can't do anything about it anyway.

    didn't they solve the last crisis by taking out a huge loan from the IMF? doesn't sound like a longterm solution to me.

    remember when we used to make fun of canadian money?
  13. Stuckey.And1

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    your being sarcastic right? i would die.
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  15. TaS

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    Eurozone inflation has been the highest since the Euro was put in place.
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    Perhaps because the numbers are reported more honestly.
  17. Ernie the Slow Adult

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    Honestly, I was going back and forth with both of them before deciding to go with BOS. CLE really could make it work, off the top of my head, with the bevy of players they brought in last year.
  18. TaS

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    More honestly than they were reported last and the year before? Why would they be getting more honest with their inflation numbers?
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    I meant relative to other zones. Not relative to their own reporting.
  20. TaS

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    The European Central Bank has stated that their inflation goal is just under 2%, which is about what we hope to have here. Why do you feel that they are more honest with their reporting that the US is?

    My original point was only that inflation is not the cause of the weak dollar compared to the Euro, b/c they are facing high inflation too. Our inflation is more likely an effect of the weakened dollar (because we have to pay more for imports), not a cause of it.

    Also, I'm slightly in favor of the Josh Smith trade.

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