Let's talk about Will Bynum for a second . . .

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  1. lovingj

    lovingj First Round Draft Pick

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    Looking at Will Bynum's play these first two preseason games clearly shows that the Pistons would be better served by starting him at point. This is not another attempt to throw Rod under the bus but you have to evaluate the strengths of the two. Bynum is a better passer and distributor than Stuckey and this highlight film of the Pistons preseason game vs the Bucks is good example of why people may be underestimating Bynum's potential:

    Video of a true floor leader

    Check out the pass Bynum makes to Rip at about 39.1 seconds left in the third, it was pure genius. Stuckey has great potential but so far I only see it as a scorer unless he steps his ball distributing game to the next level. Bynum is already there.

    For people who like numbers:

    Stuckey in 26:52 minutes of play had 21 points and 1 assist while Bynum in 24:08 minutes of play had 23 points and a whopping 6 assists. They are both effective scorers though. On an additional note, the original champs look like garbage. Prince and Rip both played roughly 20 minutes and manage to score 2 and 4 respectively.

    Preseason Game 2 Boxscore
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    He's probably a better defender of point guards too and in the press.

    But Stuckey is bigger and will be a better defender on switches if he has to guard 2's or even 3's.


    Ignoring their statures, we have 2 guys who are relentless drivers and finishers and 2 guys who are great shooters. As long as we utilize them all in some meaningful way, I don't really care who starts and who comes off the bench.

    I'd prefer to see less minutes from each of them compared to the traditional starter minutes that our players have been getting in the past. Each guy needs to play all out and know that there is a deserving player ready to replace him if he takes it for granted.
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    Stuckey is not a great finisher. Will is a great finisher.
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    Stuckey has flashes of brilliance. A lot of his lack of finishing is a result of forcing drives. Bynum tends to blow past the defenders while Stuckey tends to run into them in the air.

    I'm really curious to see how different Bynum looks now that he's 15 lbs lighter.
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    Yeah, but can Will play Small Forward?
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    TaS All-Star Forum Donor

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    Probably about as well at Tay played the point.

    I have the feeling that in 5 years or so there will be a revolution in the NBA where players play their own positions.
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    O yeah, last year even coach was out of position: assistant of waterboy coached.
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    I see it going the other way.
    ...you'll have Point Guards, Centers and "tweeners".
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    I think, in some sense, Rodney White was ahead of his time as a 5 position player. RW is the prototype for the player of the future.
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    I see an NBA where guys fly around with jet packs. I also see the addition of the penalty box.
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    Walter All-Star Forum Donor

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    You mean Point Centers and "tweeners" right?
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    They'll need the jetpacks, especially when road trips like Detroit playing Buenos Aires Maracas and Kharkov Tigers back-to-back.

    No penalty box though. In the future, it'll be an automatic two-game suspension if you get closer than 4 feet to a driving swingman.
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    Apparently so is BenG, check out the hops on the throwdown over Charlie Bell.
    Darko

    Don't forget about about Darko.
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    It might be an aspect of dimension. PG's are not (to be effective) part of a rail-yard line. Shifting approaches are not pre-determined along lines of like-minded pathways via the dreams of geometric (vector) engineers. If you get a chance, you might want to Google something called: The Dot and the Line.

    The universe might have a bending process. Certainly the duplication of DNA makes further dead-ends a double-loop against mirror end mistakes. Alignment (properly recognized) becomes the gatekeeper's key: the bounce (a normal process) is but a sly re-direction that channels entropy away from the whole energy engine. Hence, loops-upon-loops.

    In short, Bynum might be your key: the aspect of dimension (quickness) might have a duplicate. It could be a subtraction from a sum:

    "Try another Subtraction sum. Take a bone from a dog: what remains?
    Alice considered. 'The bone wouldn't remain, of course, if I took it---and the dog wouldn't remain; it would come to bite me---and I'm sure I shouldn't remain!'
    'Then you think nothing would remain?' said the Red Queen.
    'I think that's the answer.'
    'Wrong, as usual.' said the Red Queen; the dog's temper would remain.'
    'But I don't see how---'
    'Why, look here!' the Red Queen cried, 'The dog would lose its temper, wouldn't it!'
    'Perhaps it would,' Alice replied cautiously.
    Then if the dog went away, it temper would remain remain!' the Queen exclaimed triumphantly.
    Alice said, as gravely as she could, 'They might go different ways.' But she couldn't help thinking to herself, 'What dreadful nonsense we are talking!"
    Carroll, Lewis; Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There (Puffin Books, 1872). Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Puffin Books. 1962 in one volume).
    PG's must quickly shift: this is a physical attribute. You can't teach it: Bynum has it.

    The question is: by what process of understanding can different directions
    be learned?

    Can the Dot and the Line (understand)...Now Here This?
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    Put the rim up at 11 1/2 feet and we'll see a more traditional game. Less flash.
    Still...I'd start Bynum.
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    So far, Bynum is minus 23 in the two preseason games.

    Stuckey is plus 27 so far.
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    Stuckey is only plus because he is not playing with Bynum.
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    Bynum is only minus because he is not playing with Stuckey.
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    Good point Bill. I feel like we're on the same wave length.
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    No doubt. Perhaps pass99 and lee356 are on the same wavelength, too.

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