Lions to draft Stafford

Nemo · Apr 28, 2009

Larry Foote was a 1st team all american who played at MICHIGAN. Sounds good to me.

OLD SKOOL HQ · Apr 28, 2009

BillLaimbeer said: ↑

From ESPN.com:

These players might not have been drafted, but they still could find their way onto an NFL roster. Here's a look at the top 20 undrafted players:
1. Michael Bennett, DE, Texas A&M
Bennett is our highest-ranked free agent still available at this point. His ability to hold up against the run makes him a solid value as a five-technique in 3-4 defensive front.

2. Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State
Although Cadogan isn't dominant in any one area, he does possess the size and strength to come into camp and compete for a backup role.

3. C.J. Spillman, DS, Marshall
Spillman's lack of fluidity brings up concerns about his overall range. However, he possesses strong football intelligence and is a reliable open-field tackler.

4. Augustus Parrish, OT, Kent State
A lack of overall athleticism may make Parrish more suited for the guard position. We feel he plays with adequate leverage and has the toughness to potentially add depth to the offensive line.

5. Emanuel Cook, DS, South Carolina
There are concerns about Cook's ability to hold up in man coverage and in center field. Still, his overall range in run support makes a case for him to potentially develop into a sub-package run-defender and special teams contributor.

6. Darry Beckwith, ILB, LSU
Beckwith brings strong overall instincts and a physical attitude when defending the run on the interior. At the very least, he should get a chance to compete for a backup role.

7. Jonathan Casillas, OLB, Wisconsin
Casillas is undersized at 228 pounds, but he has a great blend of instincts, fluidity and range. In addition, he can bring added value as a special teams contributor.
8. Brian Hoyer, QB, Michigan State
Hoyer admittedly needs to take better care of the ball at times. Still, we believe he is underrated thanks in large part to a mediocre receiving corps. Teams willing to take the time could make him into a valuable backup.
9. Mitch King, DT, Iowa
King is a bit of a tweener who is going to have problems finding a true niche in the NFL. That said, he may have the potential to develop into a versatile reserve.

10. Cornelius Lewis, OT, Tennessee State
Lewis has excellent size, but one of the reasons he may not have been drafted is due to his lack of agility. That said, we believe he can develop into an effective guard, if he doesn't work out at the tackle position.

11. Jeremiah Johnson, RB, Oregon
Johnson did not play a huge role in Oregon's passing game and there are concerns about his ability to do so at the NFL level. On the other hand, he is a determined runner who reads his blocks well and flashes ability to make defenders miss in the open field.

12. Derek Pegues, DS, Mississippi State
Pegues doesn't have great size for a safety, and he lacks the fluidity in his hips to move to corner. However, he is fast enough to play the center-field type role and he possesses above-average ball skills. In addition, he has the potential to contribute on special teams.

13. Jason Watkins, OT, Florida
Watkins had an underwhelming performance at the Senior Bowl, which may have been the difference between him being a late-round selection and signing as a free agent. Although he isn't an elite pass-blocker, he has the size and toughness to potentially add depth at the right tackle position.

14. Alex Boone, OT, Ohio State
Boone is a three-year starter at one of the nation's most prestigious programs. Much like Watkins, he could emerge as an effective backup at the right tackle position. The reasons he fell out of the draft are concerns about his pass blocking and off-the-field baggage.

15. Ashlee Palmer, OLB, Mississippi
Palmer is undersized and struggles to anchor against the run. This may be the reason teams opted to shy away from spending a draft pick on him. However, Palmer is fluid in coverage and may develop into a situational third-down linebacker. He also has the ability to be an effective special teams contributor.

16. Kory Sheets, RB, Purdue
Sheets is inconsistent and more effective running outside than he is between the tackles, but he has the speed, hands and elusiveness to give a team a quality third-down back.
17. Joel Bell, OT, Furman
Bell is a small-school prospect who only played two years of high school football and he is still raw at this point. However, he has the favorable frame, weight and agility to develop into an adequate No. 3 swing-tackle.

18. Dannell Ellerbe, OLB, Georgia
Ellerbe lacks ideal fluidity for an outside linebacker and size for an interior linebacker. On the other hand, he's capable of developing into an adequate reserve strongside linebacker or middle linebacker for a team that can protect him with size up front.

19. Greg Isdaner*, OG, West Virginia
The 325-pound Isdaner could stand to shed a few pounds in an effort to improve quickness and agility, and he needs to get stronger. On the flip side, he has the frame, awareness and tenacity to develop into an adequate reserve guard.

20. Arian Foster, RB, Tennessee
A disappointing senior season and durability concerns inevitably prevented teams from pulling the trigger on Foster in the later rounds. However, the 226-pound back has the vision and size to develop into an effective short-yardage back.

hAVING THEM CALLED THE TOP 20 UNDRAFTED PLAYERS IS LIKE A STORE MANAGER SAYING "HERE'S OUR BEST EXPIRED MEAT,MILK AND EGGS!"

BillLaimbeer · Apr 28, 2009

jammertime said: ↑

Apparently he actually WANTS to play for the Lions.

Was Larry Foote in the Lions' plans all along? - Detroit Lions: News, Blogs, Photos, Audio, Schedule & Stats - MLive.com

Looks like I had the inside scoop on this one....

jammertime · Apr 30, 2009

This is pretty funny.

YouTube - Matthew Stafford David Letterman Top 10

LA Dre · May 1, 2009

Is me or does it seem that Mark Sanchez got more media attention than Stafford has since being drafted by the Jets?? Maybe it's just ESPN that selling it...

TheeTFD · May 1, 2009

The Jets spent the bank getting Sanchez. With what they gave the Pack for Favre it's a wonder they had any picks.

Latinoking90 · May 2, 2009

jammertime said: ↑

This is pretty funny.

YouTube - Matthew Stafford David Letterman Top 10

Why does Jessica Simpson keep calling me? LOL

TheeTFD said: ↑

The Jets spent the bank getting Sanchez. With what they gave the Pack for Favre it's a wonder they had any picks.

No they didn't. Just two defensive depth players/A QB and picks. Not much, Mangina did the Jets a favor.

I expect Mark Sanchez is getting more attention, because he's in NYC.

Nemo · May 2, 2009

I expect Mark Sanchez is getting more attention, because he's in NYC.

He gets more attention because the Jets have a MUCH more immediate chance of winning with him (team is a lot better). The Lions have NO chance with Stafford this season.

TheeTFD · May 2, 2009

I still might use Jones as a RB in fantasy this year.

jammertime · May 2, 2009

TheeTFD said: ↑

I still might use Jones as a RB in fantasy this year.

Please do. You should also start him in weeks that you play me.

Darth Tater · May 2, 2009

jammertime said: ↑

Please do. You should also start him in weeks that you play me.

Nice to see that the reports of your death were greatly exaggerated, Cannuckian.

jammertime · May 2, 2009

Darth Tater said: ↑

Nice to see that the reports of your death were greatly exaggerated, Cannuckian.

You wouldn't be able to get rid of me that easily Tater.

TheeTFD · May 2, 2009

I'll sic Megatron on you !!!

Buckeyes#1 · May 2, 2009

I hope Stafford's second day went better than his first.

TheeTFD · May 2, 2009

What, being on Letterman ?

TheeTFD · May 4, 2009

BillLaimbeer said: ↑

From ESPN.com:

These players might not have been drafted, but they still could find their way onto an NFL roster. Here's a look at the top 20 undrafted players:
1. Michael Bennett, DE, Texas A&M
Bennett is our highest-ranked free agent still available at this point. His ability to hold up against the run makes him a solid value as a five-technique in 3-4 defensive front.

2. Gerald Cadogan, OT, Penn State
Although Cadogan isn't dominant in any one area, he does possess the size and strength to come into camp and compete for a backup role.

3. C.J. Spillman, DS, Marshall
Spillman's lack of fluidity brings up concerns about his overall range. However, he possesses strong football intelligence and is a reliable open-field tackler.

4. Augustus Parrish, OT, Kent State
A lack of overall athleticism may make Parrish more suited for the guard position. We feel he plays with adequate leverage and has the toughness to potentially add depth to the offensive line.

5. Emanuel Cook, DS, South Carolina
There are concerns about Cook's ability to hold up in man coverage and in center field. Still, his overall range in run support makes a case for him to potentially develop into a sub-package run-defender and special teams contributor.

6. Darry Beckwith, ILB, LSU
Beckwith brings strong overall instincts and a physical attitude when defending the run on the interior. At the very least, he should get a chance to compete for a backup role.

7. Jonathan Casillas, OLB, Wisconsin
Casillas is undersized at 228 pounds, but he has a great blend of instincts, fluidity and range. In addition, he can bring added value as a special teams contributor.
8. Brian Hoyer, QB, Michigan State
Hoyer admittedly needs to take better care of the ball at times. Still, we believe he is underrated thanks in large part to a mediocre receiving corps. Teams willing to take the time could make him into a valuable backup.
9. Mitch King, DT, Iowa
King is a bit of a tweener who is going to have problems finding a true niche in the NFL. That said, he may have the potential to develop into a versatile reserve.

10. Cornelius Lewis, OT, Tennessee State
Lewis has excellent size, but one of the reasons he may not have been drafted is due to his lack of agility. That said, we believe he can develop into an effective guard, if he doesn't work out at the tackle position.

11. Jeremiah Johnson, RB, Oregon
Johnson did not play a huge role in Oregon's passing game and there are concerns about his ability to do so at the NFL level. On the other hand, he is a determined runner who reads his blocks well and flashes ability to make defenders miss in the open field.

12. Derek Pegues, DS, Mississippi State
Pegues doesn't have great size for a safety, and he lacks the fluidity in his hips to move to corner. However, he is fast enough to play the center-field type role and he possesses above-average ball skills. In addition, he has the potential to contribute on special teams.

13. Jason Watkins, OT, Florida
Watkins had an underwhelming performance at the Senior Bowl, which may have been the difference between him being a late-round selection and signing as a free agent. Although he isn't an elite pass-blocker, he has the size and toughness to potentially add depth at the right tackle position.

14. Alex Boone, OT, Ohio State
Boone is a three-year starter at one of the nation's most prestigious programs. Much like Watkins, he could emerge as an effective backup at the right tackle position. The reasons he fell out of the draft are concerns about his pass blocking and off-the-field baggage.

15. Ashlee Palmer, OLB, Mississippi
Palmer is undersized and struggles to anchor against the run. This may be the reason teams opted to shy away from spending a draft pick on him. However, Palmer is fluid in coverage and may develop into a situational third-down linebacker. He also has the ability to be an effective special teams contributor.

16. Kory Sheets, RB, Purdue
Sheets is inconsistent and more effective running outside than he is between the tackles, but he has the speed, hands and elusiveness to give a team a quality third-down back.
17. Joel Bell, OT, Furman
Bell is a small-school prospect who only played two years of high school football and he is still raw at this point. However, he has the favorable frame, weight and agility to develop into an adequate No. 3 swing-tackle.

18. Dannell Ellerbe, OLB, Georgia
Ellerbe lacks ideal fluidity for an outside linebacker and size for an interior linebacker. On the other hand, he's capable of developing into an adequate reserve strongside linebacker or middle linebacker for a team that can protect him with size up front.

19. Greg Isdaner*, OG, West Virginia
The 325-pound Isdaner could stand to shed a few pounds in an effort to improve quickness and agility, and he needs to get stronger. On the flip side, he has the frame, awareness and tenacity to develop into an adequate reserve guard.

20. Arian Foster, RB, Tennessee
A disappointing senior season and durability concerns inevitably prevented teams from pulling the trigger on Foster in the later rounds. However, the 226-pound back has the vision and size to develop into an effective short-yardage back.

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2009 Undrafted Rookie Free Agents Lions signed for camps...
No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Birthdate Exp College Hometown
14 Boldin, Demir WR 5-11 205 22 6/20/86R Wake Forest Pahokee, Fla.
47 Downey, Andrew LB 6-1 231 22 3/9/87R MaineKingston, N.Y.
64 Gerberry, Dan C 6-3 302 23 11/10/85R Ball State Austintown, Ohio
68 Gill, John DT 6-3 302 22 10/28/86RNorthwesternLos Altos Hills, Calif.
1 Waters, Swayze K 5-11 17 82 15/18/87R Alabama-Birmingham Jackson, Miss.

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I don't think I see anybody.

BillLaimbeer · May 4, 2009

TheeTFD said: ↑

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2009 Undrafted Rookie Free Agents Lions signed for camps...
No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Birthdate Exp College Hometown
14 Boldin, Demir WR 5-11 205 22 6/20/86R Wake Forest Pahokee, Fla.
47 Downey, Andrew LB 6-1 231 22 3/9/87R MaineKingston, N.Y.
64 Gerberry, Dan C 6-3 302 23 11/10/85R Ball State Austintown, Ohio
68 Gill, John DT 6-3 302 22 10/28/86RNorthwesternLos Altos Hills, Calif.
1 Waters, Swayze K 5-11 17 82 15/18/87R Alabama-Birmingham Jackson, Miss.

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I don't think I see anybody.

We don't need any of those top guys.

How would you like to be a kicker at a training camp trying to beat out Jason Hanson, who has been the Lions kicker before William Clay Ford was even born?

Nemo · May 4, 2009

NFL Power Rankings came out...post draft. Minnesota, Chicago, and Green Bay are ranked 9th, 11th, and 13th respectively. The Lions, very unrespected, are ranked dead last........

Buckeyes#1 · May 5, 2009

Nemo said: ↑

NFL Power Rankings came out...post draft. Minnesota, Chicago, and Green Bay are ranked 9th, 11th, and 13th respectively. The Lions, very unrespected, are ranked dead last........

If you ask me, the Lions are still overrated.

TaS · May 5, 2009

Buckeyes#1 said: ↑

If you ask me, the Lions are still overrated.

That is probably true. They are assuming that the Lions will still be part of the league next season.

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