Macklin

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  1. TaS

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    Vernors' results in the D-League so far after 5 games:

    Per game (35.4 mpg average):

    16.6 points
    53% shooting
    17.2 rebounds
    2.4 assists
    0.8 steals
    1.2 blocks

    Only 1 game so far with less than 16 rebounds, and that was a 13 rebound outing.

    He's the top rebounder in the D-league. He is also #1 in Pts + reb + ast per game.

    He is #4 in efficiency, only behind Jeremy Lin (1 game), Jamario Moon (6 games), and some no-namer who has only played 2 games).


    We may as well give him some burn after the D-League season ends to see if he can keep it up.
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    Hand him the keys.
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    It's a pull-start.
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    Here's my un-scientific theory:
    Assuming that playing in "the show" is TWICE as difficult as playing against D-League competition; let's cut Vern's numbers in half.

    Max - 6 points, 5 boards, .7 blocks
    Ben - 1 points, 4 boards, .7 blocks
    Chuck - 1 points, .50 boards, 0 blocks
    Vern - 8 points, 9 boards, .5 blocks

    By all (un-scientific) indications, V-Mack is the 2nd most prolific big on the Pistons roster. Dude is a rookie and could be using this year to learn the ropes in the NBA. There is absolutely no conceivable reason why he shouldn't be force-fed 20-25 minutes per game. No other big man (outside of Monroe) is out-playing him. He is a building block that could be improving game by game in order to solidify a future position in the Pistons' big dude rotation.

    FREE VERNON MACKLIN!
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    I read your initial sentence too fast and at first I thought you referred to Macklin as The Show and found the nickname to be a perfect fit.
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    I'm still holding out hope that Jerebko will be a good big. Both him and Monroe have very little experience (128 games) at the NBA level. They are on the fast track.

    Addition by way of subtraction (Prince, CV, Gordon, etc.) will be huge as the team continues to progress.

    Did you forget about Jonas?
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    I'd go with:
    Mack Truck, Mack Daddy, V-Mack, Macksimus Prime, Holy Mackeral, Mack the Knife, EZ-Mack, I-Mack, Mackbook Air, Mackinac, Macksimum, Mack Attack...

    ...or you could go with something Vern-desTroyer
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    I tend to agree with lee that JJ is a SF.
    I kinda see Jeb as a scrappy lunch-pale guy who can sub at SF and fill up the hustle board.

    Shane Battier perhaps?
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    Jonas' in-between game is pretty shaky. I tend to think of SF's as guys who excel in that area (i.e. guys who are 6'6" or taller and have unusually high skill levels). To me, JJ plays more like a weak PF with an above average long range jump shot.

    He's a tweener like Joe likes them.
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    If you look at some of the V Mack comments predraft, it says he had a rudimentary offensive game, relying on a right handed hook shot. And he had good leaping ability but was a poor shot blocker and he was not able to get his leg very far up the wall. On the other hand, he got high marks for work ethic.
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    I totally agree with your assessment of his skill set and the fact that he's a classic Dumarian Tweener. The only differing opinion we have is that I think he's a better scrappy 3 than undersized 4. Matchups will always determine where Jeb fits. I just think that on defense, he has a better shot of checking opposing SFs than stronger PFs.
    ...On offense, he's gonna be like a Andres Nocioni or Shane Battier.

    He's never gonna be the kind of SF that blows by his man off the dribble and throws down dunks. He'll be a defensive specialist who rebounds, steals and plays solid D. On offense, he'll always be a camper at the 3 point line who flys in to crash offensive boards when the opportunity arises.

    Dude can be a glue guy and in the right role, a 6th man of the year candidate.
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    Sadly, JJ will not get to that level, so long as he is forced to keep putting in minutes in PF. Unfortunately, I can't see him as a threatening wing shooting impact sub either, because his shot isn't good enough to stretch the D completely and his passing isn't good enough to take advantage of it.

    Don't get me wrong - I like the guy, and respect that he works hard. He needs to clean up his 3 pt shot a little more and work on spitting passes either side of the post to the big guys. When he does that, and gets 20-25 minutes a game, I think he will be a great 6th man.
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    Jonas will never be a starting PF, but I think he can play against most teams back up PF's and get away with it.. depends on how the rest of the team shapes up where he should get his mins at. Best case is backup at the 3 with limited mins at the 4, but with how the team is built now.. I think he's our best option at the back up 4.... though once the minor leagues are over... Macklin needs a chance to show us what he has the last few weeks of the season.

    Can I say this of season/summer is huge for alot of our young players....
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    In 1.5 years, Jerebko has already started 86 games at PF. Perhaps you meant he will never be a starting PF on a good team?
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    I like having an oversized SF play PF more than I like seeing 3 combo guards on the floor at the same time. Thank goodness we are off that kick for the most part.
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    I'm actually from Schmooeyville. To this day, I visit whenever possible.

    JJ is just a great 20 minute per game guy. I really don't care which forward spot he plays at. He'll give you 9-10 points, 5-7 rebounds, and a lot of hustle. I probably like him more at the 4 than the 3. That's simply because I would like more skill players on the floor.
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    yea I meant on a contending team... and some of those starts 2 years ago were for Prince... so not all his starts have been at PF. He also lost his starting job this year.... On a BAD team (to put it nicely :P)
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    Wanted to add... I think JJ is a better PF then Max too... but I think JJ off the bench gives him the best chance to be at his best... Max is a end of the bench player that is good to cover an injury.... great for a week to 10 days then runs out of gas.
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    Apparently Mack will be back in 2 weeks.
    Vernon Macklin will return to Pistons in 2 weeks - Detroit Bad Boys

    This is disturbing. Why can't the Pistons just send a proper videographer to actually capture the tape? Why are they relying on "internet videos" to keep track of the progress of players in their D-League affiliate?
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    Joe probably uses the same method to track collegiate and foreign players....they probably never go out and visit and talk to these potential picks..

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