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  1. roscoe36

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    vs Miami Heat

    Friday Dec 28 2012 - 7:30 PM EST


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    GO PISTONS!
     
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    No Dwayne Wade, so maybe we have a chance?? He was suspended for one game because of this tomfoolery..

     
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    Wade was a fool......to kick him in the tool.

    LeBron's look at Wade at the 50 second mark is priceless.

    "Oh....no you didn't"
     
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    Looked like sort of a frustration move where it didn't consciously register with him until after he did it. Suh-esque.

    Too bad Lebron and Bosh didn't also kick anybody.
     
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    with lbj and wade and bosh out,how will they sell any tickets to the game?
     
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    We are very lucky that Monroe didn't get suspended for his hit on Austin Daye.
     
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    Still no chance. Without LBJ instead of Wade, then we might have a chance. Or unless, Lawrence Frank plays the 2nd unit close 40 minutes and our regular starters 10 minutes in this game.
     
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    We're gonna run em out of the building.......even the russian plays.

    Pistons 114 - Heat 88
     
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    Drummond would be a runaway leader for ROY if he played for any other team in the league.

    Did Singler come out at all in the first half? He played more minutes than LeBron did for the Heat.
     
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    Good win for the Pistons and the fans tonight as they ended the Heat six game win streak. This game looked like a runaway for the Heat as they first jumped off to 10-0 lead and lead 32-17 at the end of one. The same bench that took Atlanta by storm on Wednesday strutted out on to the floor in the second qtr and blitzed the Heat second and first units 41-20. to take 6 pt half time lead.

    The starters who looked bad the last two games, finally woke up in the third and was able to extend the lead. The second unit took care of business in the 4th qtr this time with Tay out there to heep them honest and trying to control Lebron who until Bosh decided to chip in during the second half was a one man show.

    Once again it was Will I am Back Bynum leading the charge with 25 pts and 10 assists. He was actually the go to guy making literaly every shot he took during the crucial finish. Dre was once again a force on both ends and once he re-entered the game in the 4th, the Pistons intensity really picked up. In addition to Dre's double-double (10-10 and 2 steals), Bynum, Villanueva and Daye were 9 of 11 from beyond the arc. Our bench outscored theirs 64-20 and the team shot 58% from the floor, the highest percentage the Heat have given up this year, and the Pistons were the first team to hit better than 50% vs the Heat since the first week of the season.

    First time the Pistons had beaten a Lebron led team in the last 19 tries!! See what happens when both # 3's Stuckey and Wade aren't playing??
     
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    I really wanted to see Wade kick Stuckey in the groin.
     
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    Good prediction. Missed you in chat brother Chen.
     
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    The Pistons are fun to watch again. Great job by Teen Wolf and the second unit.
     
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    Good win for the Pistons tonight. Other than Lebron and Bosh, the Heat kind of mailed it in. That foursome of Bynum, Daye, CV, and Drummond plays really well together. Bynum continuing to play like a madman, 25/10 and the Heat couldn't stop him even by doubling him. Drummond 10/10 in 23 foul-plagued minutes, CV 18/6.

    +/- stats for the season now:
    CV: +77
    Daye: +74
    Drummond: + 34

    Prince: -101
    Monroe: -112

    It's clear that Prince and Monroe are dragging this team down. They're talented, but they're in the wrong role. They need to be playing in a set offense with good offensive players around them - Knight, Singler, and Maxiell are not good offensive players (Okay, Knight is... but he's miscast as a distributor). Right now Monroe turns the ball over too much, is not quick enough to defend non-post players, and mysteriously disappears for long stretches of time. Prince spends too much of his energy slowing the team down, trying to make them be patient, trying to be a calming influence on the floor, but that's not what works with these guys. CV, Daye, Bynum, and Drummond create matchup nightmares, because they spread the court so effectively. Prince can fit in that group, but he has to acknowledge that they have to outscore the opponent, and he just has this instinct to slow it down and make it more difficult on the team to score.

    This team gives me fits. When the starters are in, it's like watching guys pass the ball around with no idea of what to do with it. When they finally get it into Monroe, someone swats it away from him. Singler swings it to Knight, who swings it to Tay, who holds it, holds it, holds it... They're not meshing offensively. Then the bench comes in and plays like one of the best offenses in the league. Bynum looks like Russel Westbrook got stung by a bee and swelled up. CV is shades of Rasheed Wallace, but with a creative post game. Daye is like a Lord of the Rings Ent out there, all arms and legs, but confusing defenders who have no idea what to do with him in isos. Drummond is this man-child that Bynum has developed this wonderful little rapport with.

    They're FUN TO WATCH. Even in the glory days of the mid-2000's, the Pistons weren't really fun to watch. It felt good to see them win, but it was work. There was rarely rhythm or flow to those games, with scores consistently in the 80's on both sides. This team, though... this team puts the ball in the basket, and if they miss a defensive assignment, then oh, well, they'll go drain a 3 and make up for it.
     
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    The larger this sample size gets, the more it makes you go "hmmmm...."
     
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    my thoughts exactly
    hmmmmmm
     
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    I don't think that Frank is sending the starters a message by finishing games with the bench. He is afraid to put them back in. Bynum is making Knight look like a stiff and Dre is making Monroe look like a stiff.

    LeBron tried to turn the switch on at the end of the 3rd and early 4th quarter, but the Pistons were just ridiculously hot shooting and Bynum was too good with the ball to let their trapping derail us. 12-19 from deep for us and 9-29 for the Heat. We matched them on steals, free throws, held firm on rebounding, and only had a slight block disadvantage... mainly because a few of ours were whistled. Our eFG for the game as a team was .662! We had only about 89 possessions + 7 more through offensive boards and came away with 98 points from the floor? That is unstoppable. It was a beautiful thing to watch having a guy who could ice a game without passing the ball against a really tough defense. If we would have tried moving the ball around at the end, they would have stolen it.

    I think that Bynum looked bad earlier in the year because he was on the court without shooters. Teen Wolf needs his teammates to get the heck out of the paint. If he gets quadruple teamed, he knows that someone is open and he is then able to blindly pass it anywhere to get his assists.

    Stat of the night IMO-
    Our quartet off the bench tonight attempted 38 shots and had a combined eFG% of .802. Last game they attempted 53 shots with an eFG% of .623.

    So, you're talking about a 91 shot streak by these guys at a higher effective rate than Tyson Chandler averages by dunking the ball.


    After watching that game, it is really hard to believe that Monroe ended up playing more minutes than Dre. It just didn't feel like it. Great job by the young guy to play aggressively the entire game while on the foul trouble threshold.

    Tay provided a nice calming influence with the bench unit in the 2nd half I have to point out. His ball handling reduced the Heat's ability to press. Even his palm outreach stall ball move came in handy for us. Some timely scoring as well.

    We've been treated to some really entertaining games over the last week. Hopefully for Gores it draws more fans to the arena.
     
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    Our starters came out horrid, got us way behind. Then our bench put up a 40-0 run. Although Daye was out there as part of the bench unit, he might as well have been a rock since the other 4 guys were doing so well. And on defense, Daye personally gave up 50 points during that run.

    What did Daye really do? Knocked down a couple of 3's to help trim a 15 point Miami lead. Got key, hard fought for, rebounds. Made Miami pass the ball often when they saw Daye was guarding the play. And hitting several other shots. Miami could not let Daye out of their sight. Problem was, CV hit even more threes than Daye - and Singler, the forgotten man in this one, hit a three too. Then Bynum got hot on the 3's as well. What was Miami to do. With Drummond living off dunks at the basket, how could they possibly guard the Pistons. Well, they could not. In the 2nd half, Miami really got serious, swarming everywhere, playing outstanding D. But they could not stop the Pistons. And in the end, they could not stop Will Bynum. Bynum kept driving in, and whatever they left him, he took. And hit the shot. And he kept nailing even more 3's. A 25-10 night for Bynum, a truly amazing game from him against a very good team, even without Wade.

    They slighted Singler. Did not name him as part of the bench. But the fact is, that until Singler joined that 2nd unit in the 2nd quarter, we were not doing well. Singler came in, and wham, we did a 22 point turnaround. Singler, Bynum, Daye, and CV all hitting outside shots and Drummond continually dunking the ball. On D, we could get away with a lot of switching with a tall strong shooting guard like Singler in. Or if you prefer, Daye was the shooting guard and Singler the small forward. Either way, lots of height in this unit. It worked.

    Tay played the whole 2nd half. We kept the lead. Of course, that is an achievement against the defending world champs - but don't forget it was with Singler out there, not Tay, as we did that 22 point swing our way in the 2nd quarter.

    The starters made amends a bit, taking a 6 point lead handed to them by the bench and stretching it out to a 15 point lead, matching the 15 point lead Miami had earlier. JMAX made some jumpers. Monroe finished some post moves. Tay hit some shots. They did well enough to hand a bit of a lead to the 2nd unit this time - which kept it.

    Bynum drives. They defend any pull up he might try - he lays it in. Next play, they meet him at the hoop with two players. Only he misses the meeting, electing to pull up and connect. And again and again. Some of those feeds to Drummond mixed in there, some feeds to the slew of 3 point shooters on the perimeter.

    Knight highlights. None really. Stuckey did not play due to his ankle injury. So us fans were not inflicted by having to watch Stuckey and Knight pair up to totally muck up the game. Instead, Daye came in at shooting guard for Singler. Wow, a shooting guard substituted in for a shooting guard. Unfortunately, Stuckey will heal soon enough, and despite no matter how logical it might be to keep subbing a shooting guard for a shooting guard, most likely we will see Stuckey coming in with Knight.

    Note that Bynum and Knight never played a single moment on the floor together. As it should be. One point guard in the game. No more.

    Bosh is not often going to score posting up Drummond.

    Wow, great game. Great win. And that is 3 of 4. Maybe heading down the right track. I look forward greatly to rewatching this one tomorrow with my son who could not watch it tonight. Next game Sunday. GO PISTONS!!!!!
     
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