Miami Heat Scouting Report

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  1. roscoe36

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    as seen through my eyes.

    Head-to-Head

    Ben Wallace vs. Shaquille O'Neal
    Advantage: Miami

    Rasheed Wallace vs. Udonis Haslem
    Advantage: Detroit

    Tayshaun Prince vs. Antoine Walker
    Advantage: Even

    Rip Hamilton vs. Dwyane Wade
    Advantage: Miami

    Chauncey Billups vs. Jason Williams
    Advantage: Detroit

    Detroit Bench vs. Miami Bench
    Advantage: Miami

    Flip Saunders vs. Pat Riley
    Advantage: Miami

    Palace of Auburn Hills vs. American Airlines Arena
    Advantage: Detroit

    That's the way I see it folks. The Miami bench has a narrow edge over the Detroit second teamers. The two starting Pistons advantages at Power Forward and Point Guard are by a large margin.

    The Pistons will have to play very well to overcome the Heat.

    Miami Heat Scouting Report

    Shaquille O'Neal - The Big Diesel. The most dominant paint scorer of the last 10 years and arguably one of the greatest centers to every play the game. He's lost some weight, making conditioning less of an issue, but the way the refs are calling his bulldozer attack has also changed his ability to directly attack the rim. Ben Wallace will need help in the form of fresh legs to slow Shaq.

    Udonis Haslem - Less of a scorer this season, Haslem still has the ability to hit open 18 foot jump shots and mix it up on the boards. The 5th option of the Miami starters, Haslem will look to make timely contributions with put backs and tips. Assuming he is not guarding Rasheed Wallace at the 3 point line.

    Antoine Walker - Despite looking lost earlier in the season, 'Toine has really raised his game in the playoffs. He's attacking the rim, rebounding and nailing three pointers at an alarming rate. Walker seems to have found his role as the third option, creating his own offense instead of waiting for Shaq and Wade to provide him with touches.

    Dwyane Wade - This is not LeBron James. In only his 3rd season, Wade has established himself as a playoff veteran with 38 games to his credit. He plays hurt, he's fearless to the rim, his passing is tremendous for a two guard, and his jumper is improving.

    Jason Williams - "White Chocolate" was once the flashiest AND1 Streetball style point guard in the NBA. Under the tutelage of Hubie Brown and Mike Fratello in Memphis, he reigned in the slick moves for more consistent play. This playoffs however, JWill's knee problems have limited his effectiveness. A questionable outside shooter and decision maker, he does possess the ability to feed the post effectively and run a fast break with the efficiency of a poor man's Jason Kidd. His defense is not recognized as a strong suit.

    Alonzo Mourning - A veteran center, with tremendous shot blocking skills. Energy rebounder and paint defender, with the ability to finish, post up and shoot FTs at a respectable rate. More of a defensive presence.

    James Posey - Known primarily for his work as a defender, Posey is only a consistent offensive threat shooting three pointers off of spot up looks. Tough and physical, he provides an effective change of pace to Antoine Walker.

    Gary Payton - Veteran Point Guard, at one time considered the best in the NBA. His body and skills have eroded but the ability to make timely shots has not. His true value is on defense and running basic offensive sets.

    Derek Anderson - Swingman capable of playing positions 1 through 3. A good outside jump shooter, "DA" is another veteran presence with playoff experience. Can be made a "volume scorer" by limiting his open looks.

    Shandon Anderson - Swingman known for hard nose defense. Not a scorer, Anderson will be used to stymie Rip Hamilton and to protect Dwyane Wade from fouls.
     
  2. himat

    himat Bench Warmer

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    I would take Tay over Walker any day. This series will be much easier than the cleveland series because williams will get manhandled unlike Snow who played terrific D against Chauncey. Lebron gets more calls than Wade and is better than Wade. Antione Walker can either be very good or very bad and is very inmconsistant, and Shaq won't set screens or gaurd the Wallaces like Verajao did to help Lebron.
     
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    Wade needs to score to make things happen. Lebron was a force in all ways i.e. scoring, ball distribution, assists etc. and he makes his team mates better. After defending him I think Wade will be an easier guy to defend, relatively speaking, than Lebron.
     
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    Agree on Tay.

    Totally disagree on the series being easier. I think we are in trouble here. Big Big.

    Riley vs. Flip? uggh.

    If we play like we did in the Cleveland series, I think we may win...
    two games at best.:(
     
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    nice and very objective summary, micro. I hope the team will be aware of how much damage Wade can cause since he almost kicked us out last year and maybe would have, hadn't he got injured. Who knows, maybe he gets injured again- considering on his dangerous play that would me quite possible anytime and I wonder if he manages to stay healthy for his career.
    If we shut down Shaq just a little bit (meaning limiting him to about 16- 20 ppg) and keep Wade under control (24ppg with a weak shooting %) our chances are ok.
    But if there's a lack of concentration, Walker could step up- and I would hate so see that crybaby stepping up. Hopefully he returns to his slightly below 40% average.
     
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    Actually, I don't really agree with that. He's still not able to produce consistently throughout the course of a game, especially not in the 4th. I guess it would be worse if he hadn't lost as much weight as he has, but he's still not going to be good for more than 30 really productive minutes a game, 35 at most. Not to sleep on the guy or anything, but that's how I've seen things unfold with him this season.

    Snow did play some good D, but is he really that much of a lockdown defender? I think Chauncey just played badly. He's going to have to step it up a lot in this series.
     
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    Snow did enough to knock CB out of his rhythm. Don't need to be a lockdown defender, just a PIA. Just like Lindsey harrassed LBJ.

    Does anyone think the Heat's defense will be comparable to the Cavs? The Cavs played the Pistons tough.
     
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    there's no way i can say walker/prince is even. prince totally has the advantage ... walker pretty much guards himself. i'm glad he's confident now because that means he'll take more shots.

    the heat don't have a guy like varejao/foster who is going to hustle for so many offensive boards. cleveland did have a lot of athletic big men and it gave us some problems in games 3/4/5 when they fought harder for rebounds. who's going to guard rasheed? no one. who's going to cover mcdyess on pick-and-rolls or pick-and-pops? no one. will we actually use davis in this series to our advantage? yes.

    the fact that i feel we match up better with miami AND we actually get excited to play them leads me to believe we should have an easier time dispatching the heat. but as we've seen with this team anything is possible.
     
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    I knew folks were gunna have a problem with Prince/Walker, but it's the most honest report I could whip up at 2 am in the morning.

    You have to get over your preconceptions and deal with how the Heat have played the last 2 weeks. You're not facing the chemistry issue ridden Heat of 6 months ago, this team is starting to gel.

    Riley is regularly playing 9 men from the bench making this squad MUCH deeper.

    Walker is playing like he did in Boston. Period. As much as Tay has played well, Walker has quite frankly been brilliant lately. And I don't even like the guy, so take it for what it is worth.
     
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    Mr Bobblehead sure seems like the wild card in all this to me. None of the other Heat players are going to surprise you - they're going to do what they do, but BH is a changed guy the last couple of months. He can self destruct at a moment's notice, but right now he gives the Heat a new scary dimension.
     
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    Miami's team is very, very old. This will hurt Miami a whole lot, especially when we get the fast break going. Shaq tires very easily. He is very dominant in the first 2 quarters, after that, he begins to lose momentum and energy.

    I have to take Tay over Walker. During the ost season, I think Walker's shot has been going in more than not is because no one played defense on walker. He had carte blanche going to the three. Very seldom did anyone put a hand in his face. I think we can shut Walker down

    Billups over white chocolate, no problem there.

    I will call Rip & Wade even. If Rip keeps running and shooting on those little curls that he is so famous for, and Rip will run Wade to death.

    Rasheed will eat Haslem alive, hope Arnie can work his magic on that ankle injury.

    Our Bench vs their Bench. I will give theri bench a very, very slight edge. But the average age of their bench is what? about 50 years old. Peyton, shandon anderson, alonzo, derek anderson. If tony delk starts gunning the way he did in the latter part of the season and if Mo Evans start hitting those three pointers, I don't know Microwave. It will be interesting.
     
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    Flip says he is going to use Davis and Delfino in this series. I think that sounds like a really good idea.

    As Micro pointed out previously, however, Flip says one thing about who he is going to play and then he does the opposite.

    I dunno. This looks like an awfully tough series to me.

    Coaching and bench play will be the deciding factors either way, I think.
     
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    Kiss of death before the series even begins for Davis and Delfino, huh?

    Antoine Walker has shot 28% against the Pistons in the last two years. I have absolutely no fear of that man, and I'm not convinced that what he was able to do against the sagging and slow-to-recover defenses of undersized and/or undermanned teams like Chicago and New Jersey suggests what he'll do against Sheed or Tayshaun (please not Evans or Delfino at the 4!).
     
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    for what? towel boys?
     
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    We won't play like we did in the cleveland series especially offensively because: Pistons had their wakeup call and will be more productive offensively. Watch Tater I truly believe that Cleveland is better defensively than the Heat. Pistons in 5.
     
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    I don't see hoew our bench is worse than there bench. I remember our bench outperformed there bench in almsot all 4 games in the season series.:ohwell:
     
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    I agree with everything on your report execpt the Walker/Prince matchup. I think that Walker on his game is a force, but he's just too streaky to me. Prince was the MVP of the Cavs series, IMO and is just too versatile to draw even with Walker. I do agree though, that Walker has stepped up his game of late and we shouldn't sleep on him. He could end up being the X factor for the Heat.

    I do agree that this is going to be one heck of a battle. I can't see this going less than 6, and more than likely the full 7 games.

    Home court has already proven to be huge this time around, we'll have to wait and see just how much more of a factor they become.
     
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    The season is over. Looking at the way things are right now, and the lip service that Flip paid to Delfino and Davis in the Game 7 postgame conference, I'll take the Heat's bench in a second.

    All 5 of the Heat's top reserves have all started at least 2 full seasons in the NBA.

    Delk has never started a full year, Delfino need I say more, and Evans has little experience...

    I'm not trying to be gloom and doom, I'm trying to be realistic. This will not be a cakewalk. We are probably going to lose a couple games.
     
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    We all seem to be assuming a Walker / Prince matchup. Riles might go for Walker on Sheed and Haslem on Prince. And let Shaq shade over when Sheed goes into the post.
     

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