Minnesota still loves Saunders

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  1. mikhail1973

    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    I call it a good season that could've been better.
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    Their are no consolation prizes. It's either you win it all or you don't. The Pistons were just as successful as the Memphis Grizzlies (who had the worst record in the league).
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    And they can still have him back.
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    So we wouldn't feel any worse with a 22 win season this year ????
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    If you win a championship you are happy. Anything less is not satisfactory to the team and it's fans. The ultimate goal is to win a championship. At the end of a game it does not matter if the scoreboard reads 83-82 or 83-1 either way you lost.

    A win is a win and a loss is loss. I would hate it to see this team win 22 games, but seeing them crumble in the playoffs is almost as bad.
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    Most sports fan disagreement with this view point. Before any major professional sports season even begins, fans of over half the teams know that their team has little to no chance of winning a title that season. Just because a team doesn't win a title doesn't mean the season is a total waste. In college basketball, one team wins a title and the 5000 athletes on the other 300+ teams just wasted a year of their lives?

    Millions of fans, both young and old, are entertained by great games every day. Even in losses, there are lessons to be learned, by not only the players, but by the coaches and even fans, as well. These are just games that these athletes are playing. It's supposed to be fun.

    Of course, winning a title is the ultimate goal. And if you clearly have the best team, then anything else is a disappointment. Sure, it hurt Detroit fans the way the Pistons got knocked out by the Cavs this past season. If you look back, though, nearly every "expert" predicted the Pistons would get knocked out in the ECF or earlier.
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    Time to change the prespective here in Pistonland. Unless more deals are made before the season begins, expect to see a rebuilding period of time with this team. We simply do not have the players to make it to the finals.
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    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    We still have the team that gets us to the conference finals. Maybe with better minute management and contribution from the youngsters the Pistons could get into the finals. Here are the reasons why I think they can:
    Cleveland is the same team.
    Miami got a year older plus they lost Kappono and looks like will lose Posey
    Chicago only got marginally better
    Boston has nothing beyond the top 3
    Toronto is not at that top level yet
    NJ may be tough but still beatable
    Stars may not be getting as much favorable treatment from the refs
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    Even more so...

    Cleveland - could easily lose either Gooden or Vercingetorix
    Miami - and no Jones, and Shaq is aging at least two NBA years for every calendar one
    Chicago - not sure I see the better, Gordan still can't guard anyone in the league, Nocioni won't get any better, etc.
    Toronto - may be closer than you think
    NJ - Kidd sliding fast, Vince fat and happy with loads of bucks, and all the fire seems to have gone from Jefferson - I'd look for an ugly season.
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    I understand your point of view but your are probably in the absolute smallest minority on that one if you were to talk to the league owners and executives including coaches.

    The Pistons are the envy of almost all of the NBA owners, executives and owners (Obviously the Spurs have no reason to envy the Pistons) with:

    1. Their record over the last 5 years that includes one NBA Title, two times to the Finals, and 5 straight ECF final appearances.

    2. Their ability to put together that kind of record without going over the salary cap.

    3. The fact that rarely does a Piston player or executive ever embarrass himself or the team in public. Darko was definitely an exception as was Brown.

    4. The sellout crowds at the Palace.

    The Pistons are first class professional organization that all Pistons fans should be proud of. Their record over the last 5 years speaks for itself.

    :hoops:
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    The key to our success this year rests with AJ's defense. If can play an acceptable defense then he will get minutes. If he is getting minutes then his rebounding, shot blocking, passing and scoring will light up the Palace the likes of which Pistons fans haven't seen since Zeke was in his heyday.

    If that happens we get to the Finals and probably win.

    Its all a matter of whether AJ's defense is good enough this year. Everything else is easy money.

    Hot Rod will perform as good as any third guard we have had since Vinnie.

    Afflalo will shut people down when called on.

    JMax will bring his "A" game and have a very positive impact.

    The five main guys from last year who are still with us, will perform as they always have, except Sheed may slow down a bit more.

    AJ is the variable. If his defense is good enough to get him regular rotation minutes, we have an excellent chance of getting another title; if not then it will be a struggle.
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    Sure, if you're only interested in lining your pockets and not winning titles. I'm pretty sure the Spurs have the eyes and hearts of "almost all of the NBA owners, executives and owners." They actually manage to get the job done.
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    yet they seem to forget to show up every other year and arn't in any true discussion of greatest teams of all time because they can't win back to back titles... heck unless i am forgetting a year off the top of my head they havn't even made back to back finals yet. (i know we play in the jv east, but still we did that)

    when they get to the final dance they do close the deal but they have alot of short comings too...
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    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    That is correct. Every time they win, the next year they fail to make it to the finals.
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    4 out of 9 is still very good. Championships are not easy to win.
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    mikhail1973 All-Star Administrator 1x Fantasy Champion

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    I would take it in a heartbeat. Can Joe sway Pop to come coach here?
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