Minnesota to sign Darko to $20 mil 4-year deal

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    At Darko's current averages, he'll make about $24,000 per made field goal.

    That's pretty good cheddar for a lead-footed, nicotine addicted malcontent.
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    This deal doesn't seem so bad since Amir got so much more. :der:
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    ...or $18,000 per foul committed.
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    Amir gets $34M. That's Nazr money.
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    Don't know whose money were those, but why is it as of late that when the Pistons sign or trade for players they underperform, and when Red Wings get players they overperform? Maybe Joe should speak with Ken Holland? Or maybe the system is not conducive to success?
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    It is arguable that our last best FA was McDyess. I think Joe is incredibly overrated as a talent evaluator.

    He didn't even remember JJ fetching him snacks until after he drafted him. If I was a GM, I wouldn't draft anyone I didn't talk to before hand.
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    But at the same time Joe managed to get Chauncey, Rip, draft Okur in the 2nd round, draft Tay. He signed Bynum. I think there are two parts - there are players, and there is the system. Players play better in certain systems, and that may be the key. The championship team just fit together and they were strong up the middle. It is tough to replicate, but you can see what two talented big guys can do - just look at the Lakers.
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    A number of fans said it was by John Hammond not Joe.
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    Maybe Joe should hire Zeke to help him evaluate talent. :stirthepot:
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    Great to see you Green Guy! You disappear more than...well...this guy...


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    To be fair (and judging from the size of him), Joe probably has a lot of guys fetching him snacks at these events.
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    I heard a rumor that Lee 357 was one of them.:stirthepot:
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    Rose doesn't make sense lined up with Wade or LeBron -- Rose is a dominate the ball type, as are Wade and LeBron. The prize for any of those 3 would be to line up with Bosh and/or Dirk and/or Amare or, to a lesser extent, Boozer.

    That's not to say that a Rose, Wade, Bosh, Noah, core wouldn't win championships - they might well because of the overwhelming talent of the first 3, and Noah being a fine defensive and energy guy.

    BTW, if LeBron leaves Cleveland, I'd like to put together a package to get Varajao, who would be wasted on that suddenly total crap roster.
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    I disagree with this. LeBron handling the ball so much is bad. Playing with a PG who can push the ball and allow him to get out on the wing and finish is good.

    Likewise adding Wade/Bosh to what the Bulls already have is outstanding.
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    I think you're exactly right if teams are able to run -- LeBron running on the wing on the break with other great racehorses would be sickeningly great. But championships aren't won in the fastbreak, they're won by the best halfcourt teams. Regular season games with a Wade, Rose, Lebron combination would usually be over before they started - as that Bulls team would obliterate many other teams just by running and gunning and one-on-one play. That wouldn't be the optimal style as the playoffs moved along, however.
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    No, that did not work out. I never could help eating the food myself before I delivered it. After a myriad of fights over doughnuts and the like, Joe fired me.
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    :winner_first_h4h:Lee wins the internet!
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    I also think that GM's in general are overrated in that I suspect they don't do as much of the evaluating of talent as people think. That's what scouts are for. If I recall correctly, Ronzone scouted Dirk Nowitzki, Delfino, Okur, Jerebko, Darko (oops), among others. Joe presumably made the decision on who to draft (probably with Bill D's blessing), and of course he is responsible for that at the end of the day, but to think that Joe or any other GM's are always the ones sitting in the gyms and watching workouts and game tape is probably not accurate.
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    yeah. for instance, Ken Holland drafted Pavel Datsyk and Henrik Zetterberg w/o seeing them in person. All what he had were scouting reports on the table and he had to make a decision- who to pick from the list.

    It is simply impossible for GM to oversee all possible prospects and tryouts; euroleague games and NCAA events and so on.
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