Mo Evans: WAIVED

Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by Pwn Toney, Apr 18, 2006.

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Should Mo Evans be waived for his crime?

  1. Mo needs to get his own rosin spot, but he can stay

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  2. Mo is playing well for us right now

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  3. I cannot believe they didn't escort him out of the arena that instant

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  4. Carlos Delfino

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  1. ahb

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    No. I don't remember any of the regular season games played last year in any detail.

    I do have a fairly clear memory of this season, though; enough to consider statements like this one blatantly false:
     
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    C'mon ahb, you gotta do better than that. You can't say that Dupree is better if you can't remember when he was better.

    Mo = bad, does not prove that Dupree = good.

    Maybe you are thinking of Tremaine Fowlkes.
     
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    I don't think I can. I deleted my 04-05 season games four months ago, and the boxscores obviously won't tell me anything important.

    I made an assertion, and elaborated with further assertions and opinions, just like everybody else in the thread. The initial claims have no more support than mine. Obviously that won't be compelling to anyone who disagrees, but unless someone comes up with detailed play-by-play analysis complete with video proof, it's the best I can do.

    As for Fowlkes, I vaguely remember him. Hustler, decent defensive player, banger-type, comparable or maybe slightly better offensive game. He was physically stronger than either Evans or Dupree. But I don't think I've thought of him for quite a while. :laugh:
     
  4. roscoe36

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    I know. I just wanted yank your chain a little.

    Btw, Tremaine Fowlkes was terrible.

    But the trend in the sports fan world is that the less a player plays, the better he gets. At one time, Darko was going to be Nowitski. Now his fans are praying for Nenad Krstic.
     
  5. Pwn Toney

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    But it SHOULD lead to: "Let's put Delfino out there and see if he's any better cause Mo ain't gettin it done."
     
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    Mo should have some serious value when it comes to trades...
     
  7. lemonpen

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    What have you done for me lately. Typical fan support.
    Mo has exceeded the expectations of many of his supporters and quite certainly shut up the detractors so far with solid and consistant contributions.

    Two bad plays and three solid plays. Call it a wash.

    FYI: Dupree spent over half of last year getting yelled at then yanked by LB. With an understanding that LB wanted defensive consistancy came more regular PT. He began to show a little O (midrange J) at about 2/3s through the season. He had a pair of breakout games when we began cruising once it was clear we could not overtake Miami. Then I think he fell off at the tail end of the season.
    Does that sound about right.
     
  8. roscoe36

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    Full marks.

    I don't dislike Ron Dupree, I dislike the speculation that every bench player generates. "If only", "more minutes", "garbage time", "bloodflow", "coach hates him", "no chance".

    If you look at Delf's minutes, he's not really that far off from Mo. And for those that argue that Mo's best play has come in garbage time, it can be argued the same for Delfino. But Mo has been more efficient in regular rotation minutes. And that is all that is available. 7~9 minutes per game. Perhaps Delfino is the answer if you need 20 minutes at the 2/3 from the bench. Frankly, I think he looked a lot better at point forward than he did playing on the wing.

    Dupree though, that cat couldn't get off the bench for a lousy T-Wolves squad this year. It might have been Joe's best trade. Getting a second rounder and trade exemption for an undrafted FA who basically has NBDL status playing time in the league.
     
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    Good post Hat.
    BBJ you're just vindictive. I think you've squawshed any doubt that YKW was a big loss. You can start it up with Fino. You could say the waste from our bench could be a playoff team if gelled for a year. Do you see Amir getting away?
    As for Mo I don't see him getting away 2Times. Really what position does he play? He's not a point. He's not a 2. He's not a D specialist. He's not a 3-4 or 5.You could say, as Mo goes, so does the Pistons. It sure happened yesterday. Bad move by Flip, the Mayhem mojo backfired!
    He'll be back so watch out!
    It was probably comical, the Pistons all smooth then Mayhem dribbling off his foot. We just couldn't recover from it.
     
  10. mercury

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    Actually Mo's T.O. rate is very low... he generally makes good decisions... the last game was one of the few games in the playoffs that he had a negative impact... a fairly good success rate and +/-.

    No one's claiming that Mo's is in C.D.'s league as a defender... but then again he generally doesn't force things that aren't available... if you drive into two defenders and get rejected it's the same as a t.o.
    I prefer players that value possesions.... high risk cute crap loses games.
     
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    Because he can't dribble, so he doesn't touch the ball unless he's in position to shoot or just swing the ball. Ben Wallace has a low turnover rate, does that mean he makes good decisions when he has the ball on offense? No.
    :doh: And how many times does Mo Evans grab an offense board under the rim just to force it up and get stuffed by either the rim or a shot blocker? He did it against the Cavs the other day and it ended up in a Lebron Dunk on the other end in what was the biggest momentum swing sequence of the game.
     
  12. mercury

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    Just a haters point of view... nothings gonna change your mind... you won't recognize a good game because Mo is in your boys way.
    Mo can dribble... he just doesn't over dribble.

    As for being stuffed under the rim... I've seen him several times make the hustle play to grab the O board in the first place and then back it out... Delfino consistently gets his stuff sent back.

    How bout this... Delfino and Mo still have a lot to prove... we should not be expecting starter type performances from them...
    If Delfino has a good game I'll be cheering for him and giving him credit... can you say that about Mo?
     
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    I'm far from a hater. After the first few games of the playoffs I was asking for more minutes from Mo. I thought he should have gotten more time against Milwaukee for the simple fact that Bobby Simmons isn't going to kill us and Mo was shooting the ball well. Do I think he should be out there against Lebron James in the middle of the 4th quarter of a tight playoff game? No. Do I think Delfino should be either at this point? No. Do I think Mo's as good or better than Delfino? No. I guess that all of a sudden makes me a hater. :rolleyes:
     
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    That's the first positive thing I've ever heard you say about Mo...
    Let's be real here Mo has played decent in the playoffs... and he had a bad game... no different than anyother player.
    I hope someday soon Delfino can prove to be the better player... IMHO that hasn't come close to happening yet.
    I still think we need an improvement at that position (someone else) next year.
     
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    Thats the most honest and accurate response on here. Truth is neither Del or Mo is the ideal candidate. Evans has his faults - hey thats why he was so cheap. With Delfino I am getting sick of banking on "Potential" had enough of that with Darko. Show me the money....
     
  16. FreshPrince22

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    Darko is showing us the money. Unfortunately, he's doing it in Orlando.

    Also, I hate using the word "potential" with certain players because I think it insinuates that they can't play now. I don't think that's the case at all with Delfino. He's a little rough around the edges in terms of his jumper, but no young player is perfect immediately. Doesn't mean he can't play.
     
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    Diop just needed minutes. Hell, CB just needed minutes.
     
  18. Pwn Toney

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    Just reported on DFN: Evans may have a broken finger. I wonder if this will affect is minutes.

    I don't wish an injury on a guy, that's just wrong, but possibly this will force Flip to alter his rotation a bit.
     
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    I have a lot of respect for Mo if he was playing with a broken finger.
     
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    Never know when someones messin'... but sounds like you're serious on this one...
    Delfino's big break?
    Maybe it'll be much better now with our Bron lock down guy.
     

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