Discussion in 'Pistons and NBA' started by Pwn Toney, Apr 18, 2006.
I was serious. I'm just waiting to hear more.
I doubt it. My guess is he doesn't play, or he plays 2 minutes untill he misses 1 shot and Flip becomes enraged and pulls him.
Flip enraged?... that'd be interesting... I think he goes home and kicks his GI Joe.... cept he calls it Carlos.
why do we need an improvement if flip won't put him on the court anyway?? the problem is we always think our bench players can't play then they go to another team and light it up. then we sit for another year complaining about our lack of bench support. the problem isn't our bench it's having a coach with the balls to play them.
mo has had a decent playoffs except when he ran into lebron. but the difference is mo has been given a chance and delf has not. how can you say the guy hasn't proved himself if he isn't even given the court time to do it??
For every 9 point 3 block game Darko had he had a 2 point 0 board one. We just only heard about the good ones. He has not proven anything so far.
Once again, we cross swords. En Garde!
Because they get more minutes. You are claiming that Memo can be just as effective in 10 minutes as he can be in 30+ as a starter. Or Arroyo. Or Delfino. or Darko.
Anyone who has played knows that being able to come in cold and produce consistently in limited minutes is damn hard. It's why they give a trophy to the 6th man. It's not the best starter who isn't starting award, it's the best at coming in and playing hot regardless of total minute count.
Besides, the only ex-Piston to do well is Memo. Darko and Arroyo have not exactly lit the world on fire, Dupree can't get off Minny's bench, Tremaine Fowlkes is out of the league, Corliss is forgotten in SacTown, Rodney White can't get a job in the PBL.
I'll agree that Flip hasn't managed the bench well, but guys like Delfino have had as many bad performances as good. A coach is looking for consistency. Mo is consistently mediocore, that's why he gets 6~8 minutes. Hunter and Delk have been inconsistent, hence why their minutes are down. It's the freaking playoffs dude. This isn't "give a chance" time.
What are you smoking? Mo has done a great job on LeBron. He played sound positional D in game 3 and game 4.
You're right. Delf hasn't had the chance, and he probably isn't going to get a chance. So the point is moot. Again, this is not experimentation time. This is not "take a chance on a scrub" time.
Did you watch the games or are you just going of what you heard on the forums? I know when I was watching them reel off win after win against elite teams (Spurs, Mavs, and Pistons) he was playing some very consistant ball.
Mike Miller = 30.6 mpg
6MOY is pretty much starter who isn't starting nowadays. At least this year.
Too bad. It would give Darko a good excuse to ride in the firetruck.:D
I purposely let you slide on the Darko bit. Similar consideration would be appreciated. :P
You know what I mean.
Firetruck! Darko would have loved the Heat series. They have a team vehicle, it's a firetruck, and Darko would just DIE to ride with Michael Doleac and Jason Kapono down to South Beach.
God, what would we do without bench scrubs to argue about :P
no i don't think memo could be as effective in 10 minutes as a 30+ starter but neither could sheed. but he could be effective in 25 minutes on one of those nights when sheed or ben dont' have thier head into the game. i was only pointing out that there are guys on our bench that can play. more minutes doesn't mean more production unless you have the talent to do it. our starting 5 take turns having off games. i just think that when that happens you shouldn't be scared to put in a bench player for extended minutes.
agreed. but usually the best 6th man has a defined role. he should know he is supposed to come in and put up some points or lock someone down. our bench players behind delk, hunter and mcdyess don't get this from the coach.
darko and arroyo were lighting the league on fire that final part of the season. orlando was the hottest team in the league. they were playing tough teams too. i'll agree that they haven't had a full season to show what they had but it is pretty obvious they have game that could have helped us. mike james, smush parker, were guys that couldn't get off our bench then went on to start on other teams.
the coach doesn't demand consistency from the starters how can he demand it from the bench?? mo evans gets 6 - 8 cause he's flips boy. he's played well but he's on a consistent slide south.
you would have a point if flip didn't have mo evans on the floor during the 4th quarter. i would definitely call that taking a chance on a scrub.
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I was pissed that Montgomery wasn't playing Ellis and Diogu for most of the season. When "Boom Dizzle" got injured and he actually did, look what happened - they actually started winning.
There are only a handful of teams in the NBA that actually distributed minutes meritocratically over the course of the season: the Spurs, the Bulls, the Hawks, maybe the Bobcats and Pacers, but they had injury issues. Most of the others I can think of have touchy established hierarchies that have to be respected, and/or misguided coaches.
Especially the Tighest Starting 5 in the NBA.
Mo is now with the Lakers. He was traded there for 7' 1" Check Sum.
Good job Mo.
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