I think we are at a similar turning point as the McCloskey Pistons were after the '85 playoff exit. The keepers at that point were Zeke, Vinnie and Laimbeer. The championship team was built in the next 12 months without a top 10 pick. He looked for guys that would buy into the idea that they would have to sacrifice stats for the team. Right now Rip is the most obvious example of a guy who won't sacrifice his game for the team. He needs to go first. Rip became a Prima Donna after Chauncey left. He grieved and then %%%%%ed about being benched. Now he takes his shots whether or not they are falling. He needs to go. Tayshaun isn't a keeper either. He needs to go. You can post as ad nauseam about statistics but at this point it ain't about statistics. That first group of Piston champions had terrible team stats but they played as a team. Once Dantley stopped being willing to sacrifice his minutes he was gone. Same with these guys. Maybe the rebuilding could happen as quickly as it did during the 80s.