OK Joe...Jokes Over. Trade someone, seriously

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  1. roscoe36 Jedi Order

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    I'm certain I was warm to it, but I don't remember for sure.
    roscoe36, Jan 7, 2010
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    Then you sir should go ahead and complain until the cows come home, or until we win a game, whichever comes first, better look for the cows.
    KGREG, Jan 7, 2010
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    coynejeremy Super Moderator

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    http://www.pistonsforum.com/detroit-pistons-general-discussion/10061-celtic-collapse-5.html

    This is the only one vehemently in favor from the get-go:

    But others seemed warm to it. Ernie talked himself into it, roscoe sounded like he was getting warmed up to it, etc. The general consensus is that we would have been giving up too much. Some felt like it would make sense only if we were interested in completely rebuilding. In hindsight, we are rebuilding, so this trade would have made a lot of sense, although many of us (myself included) didn't agree at the time.
    coynejeremy, Jan 7, 2010
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    I knew almost nothing about Rondo when that trade was proposed. Knowing what I know now about Rondo, it's a no brainer, even if Rip and Tay played as much and as well as last year.

    Hindsight of course is 20-20.
    roscoe36, Jan 7, 2010
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    Ainge has vehemently denied that the trade was ever on the table.

    Really, he would have no reason to trade Rondo. The Big Three will be done in a few years. Rondo (along with Perkins) are the only pieces they have in place for their next core of players.
    2Tough4You, Jan 7, 2010
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    There were rumors that Rondo had some tensions with Rivers. May be, this is the reason to trade him.
    V_T, Jan 8, 2010
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    coynejeremy Super Moderator

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    I thought I read at the time that the Big Three were getting tired of Rondo being a little prick.
    coynejeremy, Jan 8, 2010
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    Check out what this jerk had to say...............

    http://www.pistonsforum.com/detroit-pistons-general-discussion/10061-celtic-collapse-6.html
    Ernie the Slow Adult, Jan 8, 2010
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    I stand by my previous opinion.
    TaS, Jan 8, 2010
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    Joe needs to be sitting next to TaShawn and Ernie instead of Scott Perry.
    KGREG, Jan 8, 2010
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    How sick would Rondo, Stuckey Gordon be in our backcourt? Gordon would always be paired with someone bigger who could swap defensive responsibilities when Gordon is outsized.
    roscoe36, Jan 8, 2010
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    Are you still talking about that trade? We wouldn't have Stuckey if we did that trade. But as a pure hypothetical, I like it. I wonder how Rondo would do without the Big Three drawing attention from the defense, but still.
    coynejeremy, Jan 8, 2010
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    Oh, I missed that. If we have to give up Stuckey, then I am not so crazy about it.
    roscoe36, Jan 8, 2010
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    I was wrong.

    You guys (ETSA, TaS, others) were right.

    ...now where is that smiley where the little dude is trying to hide behind the couch...

    Oh, there it is: :behindsof
    BallDon'tLie, Jan 8, 2010
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    LOL.............

    I keep feeling like I must be missing something. Presuming this was even true the Pistons could have:

    • Still signed Ben Gordon and the 3 Door Filing Cabinet
    • Traded for Rondo and Ray Allen
    • Gotten out of Rip's contract
    • Had Allen's 20 million coming off the cap after this season

    Assuming this trade would have left the Pistons current cap #where it is:
    • They'd have about 38-39 million counting against the cap after this season
    • They'd have to resign Rondo

    How would the pending resigning of Rondo impact their cap space? Would they need to renounce his rights to claim all the cap room if they're under the cap already?

    Make room behind that sofa BDL, I am really bumming now.
    Ernie the Slow Adult, Jan 9, 2010
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    sometimes after watching the pistons on a 12 game loosing streak, I am confused On a given perspective normally a typical NBA front office wouldnt just trade someone dramatically, well its a given there other important things to consider such as salary cup ETC...Unless the front office is just tanking......are they?
    monrams99, Jan 10, 2010
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    Philly just had a 12 game losing streak last month and didn't trade anybody. Not sure what you are getting at??
    Delfino Delivers, Jan 10, 2010
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    They did add a hall of famer to the roster though.
    TaS, Jan 10, 2010
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  19. Ernie the Slow Adult Member+

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    If the Pistons had Allen's contract coming off the books this year they could probably add 2 more bench players to solidify spots 6-10 on the roster.
    Ernie the Slow Adult, Jan 10, 2010
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    I was just thinking, Joe spent all that money last summer and yet our starting lineup is one we already had???? Some real "Forward Thinking" right there.
    KGREG, Jan 10, 2010
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