while he is no sheed on the def end... he's getting better and has alot of room to improve. He took 2 charges down the stretch last night and a big rebound. I think the win with def down the end was a baptism by fire for alot of the new pistons. Another point but one that hasn't been made, while our def suffers greatly when Big Ben is on the bench the coaches seem to understand that he can only play so many mins a night. only 2 fouls and still only played 28 mins. Got to like the coaches approach so far this season.