Piston Player Performance Predictions

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  1. Lee356

    Lee356 All-Star

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    Just predictions on which players will play how many minutes, score so many points, get so many rebounds, etc on the Pistons squad. Now, me, I will at the end of the year look over what people wrote and report on how people did in just a couple of things. 1) For the period starting now until the first preseason game on October 11, predicting how many points each player will average in the upcoming season. I'll call this sight unseen predictions. Arbitrarily, I will use 20 games minimum to call an average legit. So if you guess 7 points a game for a certain player, and that player gets 7 points per game, but only plays in 19 games, I won't count your answer as right. To be right in that case, you have to state the player will not see 20 games of action. 2) Same for the period right after the last preseason game until the end of the first week of play in the regular season. Feel free to post all the predictions you want, and track them anyway you want. Just letting you know what exactly I am interested in grading at the end of the season.

    Now my predictions: EC, won't play
    Hunter, won't play
    Dupree, won't play
    Glynyiadakis, won't play
    Carmona, won't play
    CB 16 points per game
    Rip 16 points per game
    Tay 15 points per game
    Ben 6 points per game
    Sheed 12 points per game
    Dyess 10 points per game
    Arroyo 8 points per game
    Delfino 8 points per game
    Darko 5
    Acker 3
    Maxiell 3
    Johnson 3
    Davis 2
    Evans 2

    Team average 98 points per game. (Note, players won't play all 82 games so the above averages do not add up to 98)
     
  2. max

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    This is something where there will be a much better gauge after the pre-season. Those Picking after the pre-season will have a huge advantage.
     
  3. Lee356

    Lee356 All-Star

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    hi

    Max, I expect everyone to do both actually, if they wish. I sure will.
     
  4. lazyberbs

    lazyberbs First Round Draft Pick

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    Hope it is not cheating, but

    I had planned to make my predictions after the Pre-season. Then we will at least know who is making the team and who is not. But I just thought there would be less screeching of tires if we at least know who to predict for and who to forget.

    Maybe I will try to scratch something together before, but it would be just that, scratching something together.

    In fact, I had been wanting to wait until I can see the guys for myself at the open practice. I REALLY want to see that.

    Anyone else going to try to go there?
     
  5. Lee356

    Lee356 All-Star

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    I say lets get an idea of who followed the offseason stuff. The scouting reports. Summer league. The trends of the new coach. Heck, its only a prediction. And you can make more later as you get more data. In other words, give me something to read, please.
     
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    Alright. Also a little bored

    Points only
    Ben 8
    Sheed 16
    Prince 16
    Billups 16
    Rip 23
    Dyess 12
    Darko 5
    DAvis 2
    Arroyo 6
    Evans 4
    Hunter 1

    Acker, Johnson and Maxiel play less than 20 games. But all get some time in the Dev league.

    Notes: Sheed takes over more of the post-scoring from Ben. Tay continues his offensive activity from the end of last-season when he was last healthy. Billups get more green lights but finds he enjoys setting up other players. Rip has a career season. Arroyo beats out Hunter. And Darko does well but does not play enough to make a dent beyond 5PPG or so.
    And Dyess is in the running for 6th man of the year.

    Total Points 98 against 92
     
  7. lapiston

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    Big years from...

    I am looking for Ben to play huge now that we have more depth to back him up. I am looking for Sheed to show that he is a force in this league. I am looking for McDyss to pick up where he left off--he was a monster at the end to guard. I am hoping that Rip gets back to his catch and shoot. I want Tay to get back to his threes and perfect his drives/pull up shots. I am looking for Tay to get back to D with a back-up now. I am expecting Chauncey to be cut loose and become a real force in the NBA. Won't make any predictions on the bench--just cross my fingers. I hope that Evans is the defensive player that we need on the perimeter.
     
  8. DaviaG-Rap

    DaviaG-Rap First Round Draft Pick

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    Daves predicts

    Ben- 9.3
    Sheed- 13.8
    Rip-19.1
    Billups- 18.9
    Tay- 15.9
    Dyess- 9.8
    Arroyo- 6.6
    Evans- 6.9
    Delfino- 6.1
    Darko- 4.8
    Davis- 2.3
    Hunter- 2.3
     
  9. DaviaG-Rap

    DaviaG-Rap First Round Draft Pick

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    I expect our scoring to go up dramatically this season from 93.3 to at least 98ppg. The increase in scoring will have only a marginal effect on defense. We won't allow more than 91ppg, so we should have a much better point differential than last year and not have as many close games.
     
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    Minutes prediction

    Just overall number of minutes. A season has 82 x 5 x 48 = 19,680 minutes in it. Plust maybe 6 overtime games which is 6 x 5 x 5 = 150 more, so call it basically 20,000 player minutes for a season.

    CB 2340
    Rip 2340
    Tay 2340
    Ben 2340
    Sheed 2340
    Dyess 1404
    Delfino 1200
    Arroyo 1200
    Darko 1000
    Maxiell 750
    Evans 750
    Davis 700
    Acker 700
    AJ 600
     
  11. lazyberbs

    lazyberbs First Round Draft Pick

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    Oh, alright, but don't anybody laugh

    CB 16 ppg
    Rip 19
    Tay 14
    Ben 9
    Sheed 12
    Dyess 11
    Arroyo 7
    Delfino 8
    Darko 9 Acker 2
    Maxiell 2
    Johnson 1
    Davis 2
    Evans 4

    I know that is more than the total number of points they will score, but as someone mentioned, not everybody will play in each game. There will be some injuries, too. We have been extremely lucky the past couple of years.

    And I know that everyoe thinks DMC will be much lower but I feel that if he does not play 10-14 mpg and score 9, we should let the boy go and him have himself a career.

    Just talking because I, too, am bored.:doh: !!

    Is there some kind of stat that you can compare players with, like adding all points, rebounds, steals, blocks, assists, and subtracting turnoevers?
    Seems like any combo adding up to 15-20 would be a good contribution if a player could get 25-30 minutes a game.
     
  12. mercury

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    I think we'll see a revolving door for our kids going/coming from the NBDL... this way they can get regular PT and still be exposed to the NBA.
    I can't see any of the rookies getting 20 games of PT unless there's a significant injury.

    It's possible Jmax could hit the 20 games if he does well at SF... but I can't see him taking minutes from Dyess or Darko at PF.. I think Darko will be the 3rd option behind Dyess (still mostly backing up the 5)

    Lindsey will not retire and will play before Acker (unless injured)

    Acker could play if Arroyo or Delfino gets traded...(likely scenario)

    I'll give production predictions after the preseason.
     
  13. mercury

    mercury Bench Warmer

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    Lazy, there's the efficiency rating on NBA.COM (have to select it from the dropdown list).... it covers everything you mentioned plus a couple other things.
    It's a much better indicator of true performance vs. points & rebounds.

    I'd like to see this stat used more in the future.
     
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    -------Points Rebounds Assists
    Rip = ---20.5 ----3.5 ----4.5
    CB = ---18.75----4.0---- 7.0
    Sheed = 13.5---- 8.0---- 3.5
    Prince = 12.75 ---8.5---- 5.5
    Dyess = 9.5 ----- 8.5---- 1.5
    Evans = 8.0-------3.0--- -1.5
    Big Ben = 7.5 ---- 9.0---- 2.5
    Arroyo = 6.0------ 1.5---- 4.5
    Davis = 5.0 ------- 6.5----- .5
    Maxiell = 5.0 ----- -5.0-----1.0
    Darko = 3.5-------- 3.0 ----1.5
    Delfino = 3.5 -------3.0 ---- 2.5

    Total Team Points = 100.5
    Rebounds = 46
    Assists = 24

    3 Point FG Made 425
    3 Point FG % .385

    Wins 62

    Final Position = Beat Denver 4 -1 in NBA Finals
     
  15. lazyberbs

    lazyberbs First Round Draft Pick

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    Golly, Merc. Ask and ye shall receive.LOL
    I will go and take a look at it. I have always thought there are some other things almost as important as points although they do select the game winners by points rather than those other things.
     
  16. Lee356

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    Mercury

    Mercury, on your prediction that the rooks freely go back and forth all season between the Pistons and the Patriots, I am going to predict it does not happen. Instead, Acker will end up beating out Hunter for some sort of regular gig up here in the bigs. Maxiell and Amir Johnson will be in a fight, mostly with each other for minutes. But, that fight will be right here and both players will get enough playing time right here so we don't need to use Fayetteville.
     
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    Ditto.

    We'll sticky this thread at the end of the preseason once the roster is 90% set.
     
  18. LA Sam

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    Ok, I'll give it a try

    Now my predictions: EC, who cares.
    Hunter, 7 mpg in the playoffs, 4 ppg
    Dupree, gone at or near the start of the season
    Glynyiadakis, Who?
    Carmona, 20 pine needles per game
    CB 18 points per game
    Rip 18 points per game
    Tay 11 points per game
    Ben 4 points per game
    Sheed 15 points per game
    Dyess 9 points per game
    Arroyo 5 points per game
    Delfino 2500 frequent flier miles
    Darko 7
    Acker rookies are too hard to figure
    Maxiell rookies are too hard to figure
    Johnson rookies are too hard to figure
    Davis 4
    Evans 6

    Points in the mirror appear bigger than they are.
     
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    player predictions

    lol :laugh:
     
  20. Abe Froemen

    Abe Froemen First Round Draft Pick

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    player predictions

    billups 17.8
    rip 18.5
    tay 17.5
    sheed 17.8
    ben 9.99999
    dyess 8.5
    ca 7.5
    darko 6.5
    moe e 3.5
    dd 3.5
    hunter 2.5

    im only going 10 deep like flip has said he would. other players may get spot points but that is my guess. I had a spread sheet form that had assists and rebounds but it didnt work was just one big mess of numbers
     

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