Pistons + Josh Smith: Off Season musings

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  1. raxrets

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    also by reaching presumably PO-s this first round pick will be at best late teens pick - a la austin daye.
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    It's nice to see a positive article on Josh Smith coming to Detroit for a change.
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    I agree. That article was rubbish.
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    Like Joe Dumars since the CV + Bengo signings, Josh Smith is an easy target for criticism. The spacing issues are real, but for some reason his negatives are always more talked about than his positives. Look at Smith vs. Horford. Both contributed to the Hawks playoff mediocrity, but it was always Smith that was the under performer where Horford has always gotten a free pass. Their contracts are not that different either. I would rather have smith. So much more atheltic and has the potential to have one of those classic Smith stat stuffing box scores. 20 points, 15 Rbs, 5 steals, 5 assists, and 5 blocks
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    Next year......WHEN WE SIGN MELO......folks will eat their negative words about Joe signing J-Smoove!
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    Not really. There are a lot of people that believe that in order to be championship contenders you have to really go for it and tank for awhile. In other words, the worst possible fate is a lifetime of mediocrity and drafting in the teens.
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    But we have drafted in the Top 1o three straight years. When ii it time to stop and improve? No way is it acceptable to suck for a decade waiting for that once in a generation pick. It is time to try and progress. For every OKC or San Anotnio that tanks and gets a start, plenty of other teams "tank" for a decade or more with nothing to show for it. But on the flip side there are teams like Memphis, Indy, etc. that got some awesome players by drafting smart, making good trades and signing key guys. We have our nucleus, cap space and FA signing. Now it is time to stop fretting over a mid round pick and start making tangible efforts to improve.
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    I'm not saying that the Pistons should do that, but he called it overthinking things, and I simply said it was a legitimate viewpoint.
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    Once you start paying FA's after loading up on draft picks, the clock is ticking and you have to start winning. Otherwise your rookie contracts end and you have to start losing guys (like Okur).
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    Josh Smith: The Most Important Offseason Addition For Detroit Pistons
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    Here is the Top 7 players from the 2012-2013 Atlanta Hawks compared to one projected lineup for the Pistons:


    PG: Jeff Teague - Jennings
    SG: Devin Harris - KCP
    SF: Korver - Smith
    PF : Smith - Monroe
    C: Horford - Drummond

    Now first of all, the Hawks team looks bad, real bad on paper. Yet, they always got into the playoffs with a few changes to their guard rotations each year. Smith led the team in total points, FTA, and was second in rebounds so it is not a stretch to say he was the team leader and "led" the team into the playoffs.

    Now, we add that type of player to the above roster. The reaction and analysis? The Pistons are not going to win much more than 30 games and miss the playoffs. It is crazy to me. Yes, spacing is an issue, but nowadays it seems that is the skill de jour that these blogosphere authors use over and over. Smith is a talent. We added him to a team with more talent than his last team (minus him of course). What is the harm in that. The Hawks did nothing, but keep the same team and let their best player leave. The reaction from the media - all is good, the team is rebuilding yada yada. ESPN expects them to make the playoffs, but not us. LINK.

    Sorry for the rambling. We are not world beaters, but the squad has some talent on it.
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    Also, the same is true with Jennings. We took the best player from TWO playoff teams and yet, the Pistons lost the off season. Crazy. If anything, we should get props for weakening two teams that were directly in front of our playoff chances.
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    This is how I look at it.

    If Jo Blogs the 'sport journalist' aka hack writes on his blog that the Pistons have spacing issues. I don't really care much for his opinion as it is just regurgitating catch phrases from ESPN.

    When I see a really well thought out piece on why those issues exist, what they are, and how it is possible to overcome them, I listen. Grantland does pieces like this. ESPN occasionally does, as long as the writer isn't Chris "Multiple anonymous sources" Broussard.

    Is spacing a problem. Yeah of course. Is it going to relegate us to be the next Charlotte Bobcats? No.

    What a terribly thought out article. It is so obvious that guy has never watched JSmith play a single game. Firstly, Smith operates primarily 5 feet inside the wing, rotating to the high post, or from the low block. Secondly, he often ended up out on the wings late in the shotclock and got given the ball and expected to do something. Smith doesn't just waltz around throwing up bricks 10 seconds in from 20 feet. Sure he does it occasionally, but most of his 'bad shots' are off balance, contested and late. Its no wonder he got so frustrated in Atlanta, same with Brandon Jennings.
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    Also if you look at the Pistons last year, you could see the other big leaving Jason Maxiell. Let me stop right there and say it again. JASON MAXIELL!!!!!!!<----- And either double Monroe or provide help defense. Monroe seals his man with his body but can't do squat against an athletic shot blocker coming over to help. You have the team's leading scorer making a move...only a moron would stay home on a 5 ppg player. You don't have to drag the 2nd big all the way to the arc. You can also have him hesitate long enough to stay out of position by staying put on another 16 ppg player.
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