Pistons/Sixers game 4 Sun Apr 27 7PM

I thought Joe was texting messages to Curry on his Blackberry? Maybe Curry isn't telling Flip what the messages say or Flip is ignoring them.

I thought for sure they were losing this game. At the half there was no way they were capable of winning. They had great ball movement and still couldn't get open. They were cracking under the pressure.

They made shots in the 2nd half. That is all that happened really. There was no switch to be flipped. They didn't play with more energy. We all gripe when Flip says, 'We just didn't make shots' after another flame out, but to him you either make the shots or you don't. That's all he brings.

Let's look at the Suns v. Spurs series. Shaq gives Duncan a hard time and was instrumental in beating SA twice down the stretch. Now you could continue to run the same plays the same way, shrug your shoulders and say, 'Duh, the shots didn't fall' when you lose. We'll call that the Saunders' method. Or you could switch things up, play hack a Shaq, use their strength against them to the point where the other coach has to make a decision on how they're going to play and free up your best player to boot. How crazy is that?

If you give Flip chicken shat, he's eating a chicken shat sandwich or starving. He can't make the best out of anything. It's these 7 or die.

It seems like they are coaching themselves and that is scary.

we've talked about the comments that webber made about us, what about the comments he made about dallas... he trusted nobody on that team short of kidd and stackhouse to watch his back. That team has just fallen apart totally since they fall flat on there face to miami. There MVP is soft and so is the rest of the team.

Detroit may flip the switch off and on, but atleast we have the abilty to how heart, something that I think dallas had removed in 06.

This is a major problem we have. And honestly, i'm not all that optimistic that we solved Philly yet. That 4th quarter wasn't all that great outside of Rip being unconscious. We still couldnt't stop them from getting right to the rim. I'm cautiously optimistic at this point we will come out of this series, but if we do we're coming out with "battle scars". Not sure if that's a good thing anymore. This team is just so mentally up and down; well Chauncey is anyway.

I agree with Ernie's post, and thats what makes me nervious. We didn't really develop a strategy or play any new players.

To take the Spurs/Suns thing further, it took D'antonio being down 3-0 to make any sort of adjustment (and Nash actually was the one who suggested it). He put Boris Diaw on Parker and is playing 3 bigs now, but it's too late for them b/c Pop isn't going to take 3 games to counter. Crucial difference between good PO coaches.

I thought that was an unafir statement about DAL. Webber just kept talking up J-Kidd, and his toughness, and how bad he wants it, and how great he is when the reality is he's sucked pretty much this whole series while Dirk is the only one really playing consistently.

Also that DAL team hasn't really had time to really gel w/ Kidd; made 10x times harder by the fact that the trade was a mistake/bust.

All that being said they are a soft team outside of Stackhouse, but i don't think it's towards having eachother's backs just generally mental suckiness in games.

edited to add;

Roscoe the exact words about the Flip situation when the TNT crew were asking what Flip could tell the players at halftime, he kinda had this should i say something or not look on his face, and then he said "No offense to Flip, but this is Joe Dumars team".

If the Pistons lose this series we may as well be!!!!!!!!!

Apparently Webber said more that i didn't hear, maybe in the pre-game.

I guess besides "it doesn't matter what Flip says; the players don't care" he has this um i don't what to call it, to say -

Ex-Piston Webber: 'It doesn't matter what Flip says'; Pistons 'could care less' | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

Speaking from personal expierence?

I guess they really are coaching ourselves; sounds like a lack of leadership

Also from that 2nd quote, it looks like the fans that want LB back are not alone . . .

Another analyst for the playoffs, coach Mike Dunleavy defended Saunders.

“Flip (Saunders) is a terrific coach," Dunleavy said. "They got behind in this series but he’s getting ready to even this up and get home and have the home court back in their favor.”

And that`s why he`s an analyst, and will remain employed as such.

I'm sure Dunleavy knows a lot more about coaching than Chris Webber.

Yea, Afflalo was +14 during the 5 seconds he was in the game.

Yeah Aflollo got in there on the last play of the half and help defend that last play that would have extended the lead to an insurmountable 12 point lead for the Sixers. Since we held them to 10, we were able to comeback and win, so give AA some credit

Go Afflalo! LOL

Seriously though Mike Dunleavy shouldn't talk about anyone's coaching ability. He's awful.

Perhaps, but much less than any successful coach.

Dunleavy is probably better at utilizing time-outs at least.