Preseason Pistons at Bucks ~ Oct 19th

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  1. Zoso

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    Pistons At Bucks ~ October 19th, 2005

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    Pistons At Bucks
    October 19, 2005 ~ 8:00pm
    Resch Center, Green Bay, WI
    TV: WB20
    Radio WDFN

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    Detroit Pistons 94 ~ Milwaukee Bucks 104

    Game Photos from ESPN

    Cruddy Game Log
    Micro: This game had the worst coverage ever.

    Box Score

    Scoring by Quarters
    Detroit
    --- 27 20 17 30 94
    Milwaukee 33 20 23 28 104

    Ford Fires Up Bucks

    GREEN BAY, Wis., Oct. 19 (Ticker) -- If T.J. Ford is going to score like this, the Milwaukee Bucks may be going places this season.

    Ford scored 19 points and handed out nine assists to lead the Bucks to a 104-94 preseason victory over the Detroit Pistons at the Resch Center.

    Recap from NBA.com (complete version)
     
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    WOW!

    TJ Ford is back. Man, I forgot the wheels he has.
     
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    updates

    there are no live stats other than the team scores on the web for this game, so any comments, player stats, etc, will be much appreciated.
     
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    webz,

    Just my impressions, so no one jump on me please.

    The Pistons look a lot slower than the Bucks in the first quarter.

    J-Max and Darko saw some time with the starters, J-Max looking lost, and Darko looking like he hasn't warmed up yet.

    Rip pushing the ball like mad, Chauncey taking some jumpers and the Pistons (as well as the Bucks) with several 3 pointers.

    Play of the quarter was a look away scoop alley-oop pass on the break from TJ Ford to Desmond Mason.

    One time down the floor, Bogut just grabbed Darko and spun him away from rebounding position. Bogut looks a little ungainly, but he is hustling and competing.

    Pistons give up 33 points in the quarter, 33-27 Milwaukee.

    Second Q just started, Bucks on a run, 39-27 Milwaukee.
     
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    Micro, Thanks for the update. Come on Pistons, wake up!!!
     
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    Ironic. I'm blacked out over here.
     
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    yeah thanks for that. i agree, i don't think bogut will win any awards for pretty basketball.

    who's done the scoring so far?
     
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    darko is playing like crapola. :frusty:
     
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    Nice sequence with the bench, maxiell offensive rebound, passout to Acker, drive and dish to Evans in the corner for a triple.

    Complete second unit on the floor around the 9:00 minute mark.
    Acker, Dupree, Evans, Darko and Maxiell.

    Maxiell grabbing boards, finding his way to the ball and using those long arms to corral it. Evans has looked good on his opportuities to hit jumpers, and Acker decent finding Dupree on a fast break finishing with a dunk. You can see that Acker doesn't have a lot of chemistry with the other players on the "Kid Line".

    The Pistons were climbing back into the game but sloppy play and an offensive foul by Acker quickly let the lead slide back to 7.

    Evans and Dupree are the only reason the Pistons are still in the game.
    This doesn't look like a game the Pistons are taking too seriously, and could probably best be titled, "The battle for the 15th roster spot".

    To be honest, it looks more like a scrimmage for the Pistons and a semi-serious tune-up for the Bucks. Milwaukee's second unit is much better than our 10~16 guys but it's mostly ugly ball through the second.

    [Edited] Halftime score is 53-47 Bucks. Both teams scored 20 points in Q2.

    If anyone is wondering, Darko has been really quiet coming up way short on a jumper and consistently being a little out of position (or mis-timing his jumps) on rebound opportunities.

    Oh yeah, and Dan Gadzuric looks like Andre the Giant but smaller and with buggier eyes. Poor man's Ben Wallace though. All hustle.
     
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    Note: please don't expect a lot of clarity or proper grammar. I don't have time to watch, type and eat so I am compromising on the typing. :ohwell: Sorry. Update halftime score 53-47? Dang, I must have lost track. Updating 2nd quarter cap.

    My quarter-caps are mostly written as stuff happens so that would explain why the beginning may not satisfy the end. I'm not looking at the big picture. I have blinders on.

    Who scored? In the second it was mostly Evans/Dupree/Acker. In fact, I'm not sure that Darko or J-max scored at all. Evans & Acker each have a 3. I think CB has two 3s and Tay has at least 1. Bucks are PWNING us in the paint though.

    My first impression of this offense (with the starters) is BLECH. Not worse or equal to last year, but certainly not worth a rave review (yet). Too many jumpers. Waaaaaaaay too many.
     
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    3rd has the starters back in. About 4 minutes left.

    Sheed had a tip to myself rebound off of a Tayshaun missed 3, and just flushed it with a one handed and flat footed power jam from under the basket.

    Ben also hit a near three pointer earlier in the quarter, but just turned over the ball on a shotclock violation as he is getting too cute with the ball on the offensive end.

    TJ Ford still looks awesome splitting a Chauncey(?) and Sheed trap on the baseline to complete a reverse layup.

    Michael Redd is a chucker to the nth degree. If his shot was on tonight, the Bucks would be up by more than 10. Much more maybe.

    Bogut checking in again this time for Ervin Johnson. 3:20 to go.
     
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    Milwaukee 76-64 mostly starters on starters.

    Crap for Pistons totals, but TJ Ford has 17, Maurice Wiliams has 16 with 4 assists in 17 minutes.

    Exciting play at the end of the third, Evans hits a three after a Maurice Williams trey. The Bucks advance the ball quickly as time is running down, TJ Ford penetrates to the top of the key and shoots a leaner, which rolls off the rim to a streaking Dan Gadzuric who two hand dunks it all in one motion. Too bad he was 2 tenths of a second late on the clock.

    It sounds like I am a Buck fan. I am not. It's just that the Pistons are not making any hustle plays and Milwaukee is playing for pride (and hence, is a lot more fun to watch with the ball).
     
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    Hunh. Postgame Bill and George on the court, looks like they had to write a new script, because the game sucked.

    Must be the first game they don't mention Darko. he did have one really nice play though, blocking the Turkish kid that Tony Ronzone and Chad Ford went Mosque hopping this summer to see. Ilyasova (sp?)

    I'm out like a team that is not very good and barely makes the playoffs only to be defeated by a better team. This will all occur in the first round.
     
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    Lindsey Hunter's presence is clearly missed playing against these small PGs. Chauncey just coasts the pre-season, and no one behind him can defend. Acker is decent, but makes tons of rookie mistakes.

    Transition D sucked, and there were to many turnovers = not a good combo.
     
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    Nice to hear...

    that T.J played well today. I've been pullin' for that

    ..too bad it was at the expense of our team. :(

    Sounds like we didn't really get up for this game.
     
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    I gotta agree with that. Both teams worked on different things.

    Milwaukee worked on winning (no joke) and Detroit looked like it was just playing an exhibition and testing roster spots.

    I thought Glyniadakis was not as slow as advertised, but as the new Human Victory Cigar is not getting anywhere near enough time to make a case for himself and mostly runs around like a chicken with his head cut off (seen that for real once, it's crazy!).

    Acker was steady, there were lots of turnovers caused by poor execution and lack of movement. It seemed like most of the second string were sleep walking at times and didn't have the benefit of first unit chemistry to make up for that (first unit was just funnin' around for the most part).

    J-Max was impressive late, bulling his way to the basket and absolutely terrorizing the rim. I am so anxious to see how he develops over the next 2 years. That kid is a keeper. Joe wasn't kidding when he said that Maxiell has Pistons DNA. He's just a baby Piston at this point.

    Evans was quite good. He could have really benefitted from having Arroyo or Delfino on the court with him (DNP along with Dice and Davis). I think his jump shooting was solid enough to create some space for Dupree to work closer to the basket.

    Since no one else has a comment, and LanierFan will not be recapping the game as he apparently didn't get it, that's all from me. I'm providing my take more out of obligation than inspiration. It was slightly more exciting to watch than a scrimmage.

    Before I go for good tonight, you have to give the Bucks props. TJ Ford was deadly on his jumpshots and his speed to the rim adds a dimension the Bucks missed last year. Bobby Simmons looks serviceable and Gadzuric is the kind of player who quietly puts up double doubles every second game.

    Maurice Williams was very good as well, with Blaha and Laimbeer commenting that he could fill the combo guard (Vinnie Johnson) role as a 6th man.

    Bogut looks like he is still trying to find himself and is nowhere near as polished as I was led to believe (don't drink the draft koolaid!). Nonetheless, he played hard and tried to get to the ball/rim when the opportunity presented itself.

    I'm excited to see how Desmond Mason benefits from the return of TJ Ford. Des still doesn't have a jumper, but with Ford setting him up for finishes, this could be a career year for him.
     
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    2nd half Milwaukee game

    Wow. A whole lot of great stuff from our bench. Evans can flat out shoot. But he is a zero on ball handling. Dupree did some good stuff. Some. And is a zero on ball handling. The two together are bad news for an offense. Anyone notice the couple times Amir Johnson handled the ball? This guy showed me more there on ball handling than Mo Evans for the whole game, and equaled Dupree for a whole game.

    Back to Mo. Only missed one shot all night on the way to 20 points, and showed us all kinds of rebounding and defense. An absolute must for a rotation, and a guy who can come off the bench and score. Only if he could handle the ball just a bit.

    Nobody is going to mention cutting Acker at this point. No way, no how. He showed us his scoring touch. A triple. A midranger. Went inside once. A floater. Considering he was virtually out there by himself, he did ok on ball handling too. His defense looks pretty good too, including rebounding. And 5 assists in the 2nd quarter. He is easily leading the team in assists per minute so far in his limited minutes this preseason. And this is without the benefit of getting much playing time at all before tonight.

    I get the impression if you left Maxiell out there for a few games, he would start outdoing everybody. Those dunks were powerful. His midranger looks good. His rebounding is dynamite. What the heck more could you want? Well, I'd say he was at least a better ball handler vs. Evans. Evans has that range though.

    Darko hit another outside shot, and one or two just rang out. Yep, after two years, you got to give that shot some time. Looks very promising. Made both free throws too, something I would like to see young Mr. Maxiell do just once. Something mental there. He can do better at the line.

    Tay hit another outside shot. Otherwise, can't say much about the starters. CB played into the 4th just a bit. Still don't know what's up with that seeing CB with the 2nd and 3rd units. Some plays Flip is trying to teach the rookies and other young folk I guess.

    It was one very exciting game with us getting a chance to watch the rookies play. After tonight, the only question is whether they want Hunter on the team or Dupree. Dupree can add depth for you at small forward. A guy who just might in some situations be the right guy for you. Hunter can give you some solid D. If played just as a defensive specialist, he could be quite valuable. My vote is for Hunter at this point. That improved shot, and the improved ball handling simply have not materialized as of yet from Dupree. Just really can't see him getting any minutes from Evans, and if he did get any minutes at all, it would be at the expense of Amir Johnson, who needs all the NBA experience he can get. Experience that will allow Amir Johnson to help the Pistons.
     
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    1st half of Milwaukee game

    Finally, extensive burn for Maxiell and Acker. First impressions, no way Acker will not make the squad,and no way Maxiell will not make the regular rotation. Now, the unit out there for much of the 2nd quarter was Acker, Dupree, Evans, Maxiell, and Darko. Acker brought the ball up well enough, but there was no other ball handler out there besides Darko to help him out. Indeed, the best I saw the ball brought up was actually the one time by Darko, who still looks like a guard handling that ball on the open floor. Acker had a triple and an impressive block. Besides that, the obvious that nobody shot over him. Good solid D. Still not enough data about how well he can stop penetration as there have not been really much in attempts by an opposing guard to isolate and drive him.

    Maxiell can flat out rebound. He boxes out well and uses those long arms, 7-4 wingspan, to practically suck that ball in flat footed sometimes. And he can go up for them too. Excellent impression of Ben in this regard. Absolutely you can see the possibility that Maxiell could get lots of burn at power forward (limiting Darko's and Dyess' minutes, and even cutting down on Sheed's and Ben's minutes.) But I still want to see him at small forward. I don't see any lack of speed with this guy despite all the size. I believe he hit one jumper of several taken.

    Darko had an offensive rebound tip in, and otherwise is just simple a good defensive center. Just tough to shoot over. Not a lot otherwise. He attempted an outside shot and missed badly. On another, he was sure it was going in but it just did not quite. Hey, at least he is getting the reps in a game. Give that shot some time.

    I have yet to see Maxiell really use that step back jumper I saw in preseason. Just lacking confidence I suppose. First time out really. Can't expect it all, but I like what I have seen just with the defense and rebounding.

    Mo Evans is hitting his shots, going up for bounds, and blocking shots. Still no ball handling seen from him but man does he have some skills. Dupree is doing fine out there too, but again, no ball handling although he did manage to get one good pass in there for Evans. Between Evans and Dupree, Evans is impressing quite a bit more, but just maybe there is room for both. Hunter could still retire.

    Prince hit some triples tonight, nice to see. Rip is hitting his midrangers and CB is hitting some shots. Nothing all that new with the starters. No Arroyo, Delfino, Dyess, Davis, Glyniadakis or Amir Johnson so far. Game back on.--PS Microwave, I really appreciate you doing a game report. Thanks. Keep it up.
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    About 6 more inches would be perfect!!

    Man, he would be unstoppable.

    Here's hoping he has a late growth spurt.

    Instead of the "Mini Ben Wallace" he'd be the "Massive Ben Wallace"
     

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