Re: Shabazz Muhammad?

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  1. Mogilny

    Mogilny All-Star Forum Donor

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    I'm not as convinced as blue about this guy but I don't really follow college ball.
     
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    Not sure which of the 4 Muhammad threads to post this in, but this one seemed to need the most love.


    Shabazz Muhammad is a Competitor

    Most consider Muhammad to be a lottery pick, but he didn't rest on that. Jeff Goodman of CBS recognizes Shabazz's unexpected presence in drills.

    Shabazz Muhammad may be the lone lottery pick actually participating in combine. Right now he is blending in with everyone else.
    — Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanCBS) May 16, 2013

    While he should be commended for participating, he didn't do much to dispel any of the on-court questions about his game. Muhammad was a volume shooter and only an average to slightly above-average athlete at UCLA.
    Givony's tweets tell us that Muhammad showed more of the same during drills.

    Shabazz Muhammad really struggling so far. Shots not falling and couldn't create much in the one on ones. Did compete defensively, though.
    — Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) May 16, 2013

    Although the shots weren't falling, I still believe Muhammad made a good account of himself. He averaged 17.9 points per game as a freshman, and he continues to prove he wants to be great. Muhammad has confidence and the work ethic to maximize on what he has.



    Shabazz: "I'm a guy who thinks he is the best player in the draft."
    — Jeff Goodman (@GoodmanCBS) May 16, 2013
     
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    They probably had the same knocks on Paul Pierce when he came out.
     
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    I've said that I prefer McCollum.
     
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    I know blue loves this guy over anyone but the greek sensation but I'm not convinced.
     
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    Former NBA player Joe Wolf is a regular on nbadraft.net and usually has well written posts. He said this about shabazz:
    attribution shabazz muhammad | NBADraft.net

    JW picks out lateral quickness and a lack of pro level ballhandling skills. The competativeness and the scoring skill is there and according to JW should translate to a solid NBA starter - just not an all-star.

    There is also mention that he is not in top shape and that is hampering his athleticism scores.

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    Muhammed had one of the worst combines of all that showed up.

    Muhammad was the second-worst shooter at the combine, making only 36 percent of his jumpers during drills. This isn't a good look considering his shooting was one of the few strengths scouts found in his game after one season at UCLA.

    He also measured just 6'4.75'' in socks. NBA scouts view him as a small forward given his inability to create off the dribble.

    According to ESPN's Chad Ford (subscription required), one GM told him, "It's a problem. If you're on the fence about him, this could push you off."
     
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    Not good for a guy who was trying to use the combine to reverse is falling stock.
     
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    Falling stock can be good - Andre Drummond
     
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    Remember when Rodney White fell into our lap?
     
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    Yep, I rather (if we're looking at a two) that it be Tony Snell, who should be available on the second round.
    Best get the utmost value with this pick. Just go big: Len/Zeller.
     
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    Snell is going at 19 on nbadraft.

    Yeah, I'm not feeling Shabazz. Guys who like to shoot with overboard confidence and low % are not on my wish list. Plenty of past examples: Larry Hughes, Antoine Walker, Gilbert Arenas, etc.
     
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    2013 NBA Draft - Using science to break down Shabazz Muhammad - ESPN

    The gist of the article is that his leaping ability is quick if not high and the trainer valued quickness over vertical. Also, he has the ability to tweak his mechanics to take advantage of techniques to improve himself. He also showed promising ability to fix his shooting. He has trememndous work ethic...maybe even obsessive work ethic.
     
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    Relax, you're breathing too hard.
     
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    After watching Lance Stevenson lately I like the idea of getting guys who were the players of their class at some point but fell off for whatever reason. OJ Mayo is the same way. These guys have a confidence about them that can make them very useful if they can find the right situation.

    Muhammad might fit this bill, but he was missing 15 footers by himself in this video.
     
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    He had only 27 assists in 1,000 minutes of playing time?

    He seems like an offensively weighted player to me without defensive passion. When you add to that his below the rim finishing style, I'm afraid of his potential mediocrity.
     
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    yeah but at least i'm doing it through my mouth...
     
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