(real) Dumars & Frank to be fired report

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  1. Pwn Toney

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    ..and you really get to see who kept Fred McCleod from being terrible on FSD. (Read: George Blaha)
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    See, THIS is what I'm afraid of: Cleveland Cavaliers fire coach Byron Scott

    Other teams are going to make their moves and just like always, we'll be sitting by the wayside not doing a thing...looking for the retread (that someone else just fired) that we can hand the job over to. Why are WE still waiting to find out if Frank will be back? That HAS to be a decision that has already been made one way or the other. Get it over with.
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    ^Per Marc Stein's tweet, Frank is meeting with Gores today. We should know what they decide soon.

    I hope they base their assessment of prospective coaches on more than how well they do in the interview this time.
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    A big connection. Do not underestimate an associative atmosphere (and it is a long way from Michigan).
    Phil will be asked and his only role will be as a GM. No problem in bringing B. Shaw along.
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    I don't know...I haven't seen anything from Shaw that leads me to believe he would be an effective coach. Hell the Lakers wouldn't give him that job and he was ON Phil's staff.
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    Sources Pistons To Fire Lawrence Frank - RealGM Wiretap
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    Tough stuff.

    I think Frank is a good coach. I can't argue with how he developed Dre and Middleton. I thought that he put the team in a position to win. The players let him down, and he's going to take the hit.

    This will probably be a bad thing, unless Joe can pick up Nate Mcmillan.
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    I watched Nate coach here in Portland. I'm not sure he would be much different from Frank. He seemed very stubborn and lacked X's and O's, IMO
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    When did Frank do well in NJ? When the roster had talent. When did Frank do bad in NJ? When the roster lacked talent.

    The Pistons as a team aren't good, a good coach is only going to have a marginal effect. When LB came here, the pieces were already in place to compete for the ECF in the East.
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    Who was it you were rooting for a few years back, was it Nate? I can't remember.... who would you like us to look at going forward? (great topic for your podcast.... a few weeks behind so maybe you did cover it?)
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    According to ESPN's Mark Stein, he is gone.

    Good riddance.
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    I'll be talking about it this week. But, my top 3 choices right now:

    1. Laimbeer (prototypical Pistons DNA, Great for a young squad, rebuild "Pistons Culture", has his X's and O's)
    2. Phil Jackson (let him name his price, see what he can do)
    3. I'm still good on Jeff Van Gundy. He knows his stuff. (Never Stan. I don't want a coach that will panic more than our players will...and THEY have to play the game.)
    4. Kidnap and enslave Larry Brown
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    Denver has done a phenomenal job of doing that this season.
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    The thing I'm finding interesting today is being on a couple of other sites and finding that people are talking about Frank like he's a victim of having the worst talent the NBA has to offer. Apparently, all of our players suck, so it doesn't matter who the coach is, seems to be what people are throwing out there. I don't think we have contender talent, but I think we should have been in the mix for that last playoff spot. Besides, if Frank had even shown a little bit of improvement from year to year, I think that's what most teams want. They want to see that your game plan is at least making the team better from year to year. You don't have to come in and win it all, but when your team actually looks worse in the 2nd year, you're not giving anyone hope that your methodology is any good. I honestly believe that regardless of record, if Frank had been able to get this team to show improvement from last year (i.e. challenging for the last playoff spot), he would still be here. But, if the only time you can put together a win streak is at the end of the year when you need the losses more...
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    There were 2 paths Frank could have gone down this year, make the playoffs or have the team headed in the right direction via the Monroe, Drummond and Knight core. He failed at both. I would have fired him after the Philly game.
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    To fire coach - easiest to do. The rest is much much harder.
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    Blue should create a thread about this.

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