Refs Betting on Games?

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  1. buddahfan

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    A possible Conressional hearing.

    Congressman wants to meet with Stern
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    Yeah, get all up his YKW.
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    I can't wait until Sheed starts using this against other NBA refs.:)
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    So, supposedly, Donaghy is going to "name names" of other refs and players.

    That will be interesting.
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    I wonder if Bavetta is on that list?
    Or maybe Flip bet on Cavs? (did he say anything about coaches as well?)
    :pound:
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    I would be very surprised if other refs/players are involved. This Doneghy guy has to be a near geneious to get around all the checks and balances they have in place.

    This story is beyond gambling. Thats the main story but it would not have the legs it has if not for all the doubts fans have had over the years and all the secrecy Stern has had concerning the refs.
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    Ya know...I'm still wondering why Donaghy hasn't been arrested yet and is allowed to make his own timeline for interrogation. Instead...they send the police out to protect him?

    WHY is this guy allowed this much freedom under the allegations? He pretty much admitted guilt by resigning.

    JMO...this whole thing goes much farther than just Donaghy. And the FBI is giving him time and a chance at a plea if he connects the dots for them.

    I think Donaghy is the new poster child for the witness protection program.
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    The checks and balances are a big bluff. There are too many games (1,200+ per year) and the standards must have been relaxed for vets like Donaghy. Also, they say that the NBA was watching him for the past year, but still assigned him to big games. When you look at his personal life, there was obviously something wrong with this guy emotionally. I'm not sure why Stern didn't realize it. Hitting golf balls at his neighbors houses at night. Arguing with everyone. Chasing the mailman in his car. Personal lawsuits against him. etc. He couldn't even get along with Sheed. :MusicBigGrin:

    There is always the possibility that he will lie and implicate others in an effort to get some sort of bargain. But it would not be an easy thing to make up. The numbers would have to pan out in the analysis.

    This might be the house cleaning event we have been waiting for.
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    Remember that. The best disguise is to be in plain sight.
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    I would look at who was Doneghy`s partners is the games he worked. To me, it would be somewhat difficult to fix, make bad calls, etc....on a consistent basis without his peers (that are working the game with him) becoming suspicious.

    An NBA game has a 3 man crew, for one of those three to have an impact on a game without the other 2 refs knowledge is possible perhaps, but I can`t see it happening often.
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    You very rarely see a call by one ref over-turned by the others. I think it safe to say there's an unwritten rule to mind each other's backs. Either that or they claim blindness as an exemption when filing their tax returns.
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    True and I agree with you that something was wrong with the guy that should have made the league question his competency.

    However, someone hitting golf balls at his neighbors garage is not necessarily a sign of someone having a gambling problem and messing around with illegal bookies.

    The league still checked his back account and he was banned from all forms of gambling ( except for horse racing per league policy). So it very ingeneous how he was able to hide the money trail.

    As for other refs. Very few would risk a 200K+ job on something they know is going to ruin their careers. Besides they cannot hide the winning so doing so would also be tax evasion.

    There is too much to risk for me to believe that this would be widespread.
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    You don't do the betting yourself, you have someone else do it for you. He was passing off information to repay debts. If he was successful, it would just reduce the amount of money he owed the guys who he tipped off.
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    I agree, you rarely see a call overturned by another ref, however, it does happen. If one ref continously makes bad or questionable calls, the other refs must sense somethimg is going on, or else they are extremely naive.

    That rule about minding each others backs was damaged last year even befroe this betting mess, with the Tim Duncan incident.
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    Yeah the NBA had to backtrack quickly after it was said they had a clue back in Jan.
    Other wise they knowingly comp.......
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    Folks risk good paying jobs and freedom for not-so-smart reasons all the time. Just open up a paper or turn on the news and there someone is, causing us to ask why would they... or how could they be so stupid?

    I'll be surprised if it is found that Tim was the only one doing this.
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    I'll be surprised if John Q. Public ever finds out how widespread this is.
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    I agree with this also.
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