I guess loosing BIG BEN is a lost..but having NAZr in a way is not a total lost..We still have tay, rip, Billups, and sheed for me thats not going to be a bad line-up for crunch time.. Remember statistically NAZR is a better scorer compared to Ben..and NAZr is not a bad defender..But then again the intensity that BEN brings to the team is incomparable. The only question that remains is.. "Is rip, tay, rip, billups, and sheed hungry enough to do another run?" Are they motivated enough to do another run? who will be the source of the energy? I will be a pistons fan for life and i miss the potent DetroitBasketball style..wherein hassle and defense is the main weapon..C'mon stern tell ur refs to stop babysitting this is basketball not ballet!!