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    Wade got nothing on Stuck.
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    just doesn't get any respect....
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    After being handed the keys and starting virtually every game since the Finals MVP was shipped out to make room for him, he undermines his coach by missing practice and then openly laughs at him as he's ejected from the game.

    He's a bit of an enigma.

    I don't dislike him either though. It just seems like he should be really happy with the way that everything has gone. He is now a top 20 PG and has probably solidified his status as an NBA starter for the next 5+ years, whether with Detroit or another team.
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    Yeah, as did Tracy McGrady and team and city hero, Ben Wallace. At least he and Daye didn't miss the entire practice for no reason like ** ahem** Prince and Hamilton did. That incident enraged me at first, but the more and more I read about Kuester (and his inability to even communicate with his players, let alone relate to them), I don't feel sorry for him.

    Why should Stuckey be happy? He's on a lottery team and one of the most dysfunctional rosters in the league, never knowing what his role is one day to the next. If he were content and happy with this situation, I wouldn't be happy with him.
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    I wonder how many forum members would take AA over Stuckey at this point.... I'd have to think really hard about it....
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    Jimmer choked big time in their sweet 16 loss. He forced way too many shots. He tried to take over the game and instead of passing the rock when he couldn't get free, he forced shot after shot. I half expected him to start posting up from the 3pt line.
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    Oops. I thought this thread was about Rodney Dangerfield. My bad.
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    Different type of player. My first thought would be to take Stuckey over AA.

    But, let's get to details:

    AA has better range, and is a better defender.
    Stuckey is better at driving to the rack and getting to the FT line.
    Stuckey is an ok backup PG.

    They're about the same height, and AA has some pounds on Stuckey.

    Now on to the stats:
    MPG/FG%/3P%/FT%/RPG/APG/SPG/BPG/TO/PF/PPG
    Afflalo: 34.1/.496/.426/.845/3.6/2.4/0.5/0.5/1.06/2.24/12.6
    Stuckey: 30.6/.431/.293/.860/3.0/4.8/1.1/0.1/2.10/2.61/14.8

    Pretty similar stats, but Afflalo is clearly a much better shooter. Stuckey is better from the FT line. Maybe not by much, but he gets to the line twice as many times as Afflalo (322 FTA vs 161 for AA).

    It is important to note that Afflalo's stats have gone up every year in the league, specifically in PPG, FG%, FT% and 3P%; the key stats for an SG. Stuckey's stats have flatlined since his second year in the league. So, while AA may continue to grow, it seems like Stuckey is at or near his ceiling.

    AA is your prototypical starting caliber SG.
    Stuckey is your prototypical combo guard off the bench - Jason Terry type.

    I guess you'd have to choose one over the other depending on what your team needs.

    I'd be happy with both Stuckey and AA instead of Rip and BenGo.
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    nice post.... I look at it beyond the numbers also.... I don't watch denver as much but I have yet to see a complaint or moody AA. Even when he was here and getting 1 sec stints at the end of a quarter he did his job the best he could. I love his attitude. Our Boywonder has had a rotten attitude at times (don't care if there is a reason or not)
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    May as well been, as Stuckey is starting to get no respect either..

    Should we add any Rodney White hater-isms in here too?
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    I was a big AA fan in the red white and blue.

    Would have loved a core of Monroe, Stuck, AA and Daye going forward.
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    Stuckey is up and down. When he drives to the hoop with wreckless abandon, something bad usually happens...just made a big turnover right now, for example, as the Pistons were making a run on the Cavs. On the other end, Davis triples in Stuckey's face.
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    Still defense wins titles, so I am a AA man as he has the overall edge here IMO
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    Because he has 185 NBA starts at the point and he's only 24 years old.

    He's due to make about $4M next year and will hit the FA market after that to get real paid.

    Since he was lucky enough to get the keys to the team from Joe, he has a much greater resume than he otherwise would. He's about to go into his maximum production years (25-30) and he can pick a better team if he wants.

    Of all the young guys on the team, he's had the most consistent minutes and has been messed with the least by the coaches. He's had a very fair shake in his young career so far.
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    Maybe for his entire career he's had a "fair shake" (that is relative though, none of our young players other than Monroe have shown as much as Stuckey has), but I wouldn't say he's getting a fair shake now, getting benched after playing tremendous basketball, and playing less minutes than Hamilton and Prince, who are not part of the future of this team.

    And, besides, saying he's had it good compared to the other young guys just isn't saying much since Detroit isn't about youth building and it never has been. There's no reason that Stuckey/Monroe/Daye shouldn't all be starting and playing 30+ minutes a night.
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    Only 1 player on the team averages more minutes. All the guys on the team have been randomly benched at various points on the season. Kuester is a madman. But Stuckey has been screwed with the least.

    Look at Bynum. He gets forced to play 48 minutes and scores 29 points, then has DNP's shortly thereafter? Rip is perma-benched, then pops in for one game, then gets perma-benched again, then comes back like nothing ever happened.

    It's just a weird year.
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    Bynum has gotten screwed lately, I agree.

    Hamilton, ignoring the fact that he berated his coach in front of the entire team, was playing really poorly before his benching. It took a good 20 games or so for Kuester to finally pull the plug on him starting.

    Kuester is a really, really bad coach. I think we can both agree there.

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