Rotations, part... Joe D: Jennings isn't guaranteed a starter job

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    One would think, but don't underestimate the fact that nobody else wanted him. He was essentially an unrestricted free agent that EVERYBODY passed on last summer and watching him play .......it's easy to see why. I hope I'm wrong, but this could turn into a VERY BAD decision.
     
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    Think about who Jennings is as a PG, an undersized volume chucker who shoots 39%!!!!
     
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    Jennings teams have had success. It seems like it takes him/them awhile to mesh. The 2010 Bucks were legit good before Bogut got hurt.

    The Pistons have played a tough schedule, but they have been looking worse. I don't see how they can solve their shooting woes without him on the floor.

    He's a threat at least.


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    Looks like Billups is out tonight.

    @vgoodwill: Would bet money KCP starting at 2 tonight. Billups out tonight. Cheeks said it'll either be KCP or Stuckey #pistons


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    A false threat. HE'S A CAREER 39% SHOOTER. The dudes a bonafied brick layer.
     
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    Gotta look at efg for a three point shooter. He's still inefficient, but not as bad.

    We need him fast breaking. Dude is quick.
     
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    Eye ball test: poor mid range shooter, poor long range shooter, poor finisher. He's a volume shooter who gets on a roll once throughout the course of a game, AFTER he's disrupted the offense. He's a bum.
     
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    Is he actually a poor long range shooter? He shot the 3 ball pretty good last year and his rookie year.
     
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    Interesting to look at when he shoots and what his success rate is:

    Possession time: % of FGA/ eFG
    00-10: 47%/ .522
    11-15: 31%/ .400
    16-20: 16%/ .375
    21-24: 6%/ .000

    Overall, his PER is 19.4 and his eFG is .429. The guys that he's guarding so far this year have a PER of 15.2 and an eFG of .417.

    As you can see from the figures above, his percentage is getting killed when he's the last option in the offense and he forces up desperation attempts. It's amazing that he hasn't yet scored a single bucket in the last 4 seconds of a possession.
    Also, he takes most of his attempts and is most efficient when he gets right to it (fast breaks, transition 3's, shot clock resets after offensive rebounds, etc).

    Billups, on the other hand, is completely back weighted. He is at his most efficient in the 2nd half of the shot clock.


    One more quick point on Jennings. He has 21 assists this year to 4 passing turnovers. 5.3 to 1.0 ratio isn't too shabby.

    The only one better is Bynum with a 9 to 1 ratio! WB has only 2 passing turnovers this year.
     
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    Jennings is the least of my concerns. Its the horrific interior defense, rotations on defense and missed open threes.
     
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    Something is haywire at the sf spot. Replacing smith with a floor spacer and moving him into the paint would likely solve it. We don't have the scheme developed yet to execute an unconventional style with unconventional personnel. Smith is a great defensive player and opposing sf's are demolishing us by all measures.
     
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    A rotation:

    Jennings, Pope, Smith, Monroe, Drummond start.

    2nd unit: Stuckey, Singler, JJ / Smith working some with the 2nd unit, Mitchell, (Drummond and Monroe split time working with the 2nd unit at center)

    In all, something like this.

    1st quarter, no subs.

    We start the 2nd with Stuckey, Singler, Smith, Mitchell, Drummond. Smith is our featured scorer up front. Stuckey drives in constantly, sometimes pulling up. Always with rebounders surrounding him.

    Four minutes into the 2nd, it goes Stuckey, Singler, JJ, Mitchell, Monroe. Now, Monroe is our featured scorer.

    Back to our starters for the last four minutes of the first half.

    The minutes are pretty simple: Pope and Jennings play 32 minutes. Monroe, Drummond, and Smith play 40 minutes. Singler, Stuckey, and Mitchell play 16 minutes. JJ plays 8 minutes.

    Foul trouble is easily covered. JJ and Mitchell can play more up front, and Singler could play a bit at small forward if needed. Stuckey could go a lot further than 16 minutes if needed.

    Billups plays upon occasion, simply replacing Singler some nights. Or getting a shift at point in place of Stuckey for a half here and there.

    This all involves 10 players. Should be enough.
     
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    Chauncey really only played heavy minutes in the first two games. He really had to, though, because Thumb and Tooth were both out. Since then, he has averaged under 20 mpg.
     
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    I liked how Jennings was pressuring guys with his quickness defensively last night.

    He was darting in and out of the passing lanes all game. He played well.


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    He shot 5/14......ouch! Take away those 3 stupid shots, 5/11. I think he had 2 end of shot clock shots, take those away and he's 5/9- which is pretty good.

    Josh seemed to be making a conscious effort to not settle for the 3, he still took 6 of em!
     
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    I don't like Jennings game, but I get the feeling that he is what we need. One of the biggest problems last year for the Pistons was pacing. We were slow slow slow. Jennings addresses a need (along with Smith) to be able to run and give us extra possessions.

    Bynum doesn't have the handle, aggressiveness or the court vision of BJ. Jennings should be good, but he is too worried about getting his and being the superstar to be effective. He needs to be our Chris Bosh, there everytime we need him, but not trying to force his way onto the score sheet when things are tough.
     
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    Dude has played like 5 games as a Piston. Give it time. The results will either speak for themselves or they won't.
     
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    Dude has played like 5 years in the NBA and his game has spoken. A career 39% chucker.
     
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    People change. If they didn't, everyone would be who they were in their rookie season.
     

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