Rotations - Part Trois

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  1. BallDon'tLie

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    Pretty sad when you lose NINE guys and it doesn't have much of an effect on your ability to win.
    The roster over the last 3 or 4 years has really been a mess.

    Hat off to everyone on this board who stuck with this team,
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    They should be able to win more now
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    So who did we replace those guys with?

    PG: Knight/Calderon -> Jennings/Billups/Siva
    Wings: English/Prince/Middleton/Maggette/Daye -> KCP/Pizza Guy
    Bigs: Maxiell/Slava -> Josh Smith/Mitchell


    I think overall we upgraded the PG and bigs. The big question mark is the 2-3 spots for us now. If we end up going big with Smith at the 3 (essentially playing 2 PFs and a center) then it's really the SG we have issues with.

    Looking at it this way, it is ironic that the player that will have the biggest +/- impact on the team this year is Pope.
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    I'm not Catholic but I certainly believe in the Pope.
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    Each Pope is guaranteed to get his own ring. It is inevitable.
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    Playing Pope as the backup small forward is not exactly the dreaded small ball. The guy is 6-6, and can apparently rebound well enough.

    Lets assume Billups, despite being 38 years old, can play 29 minutes a game very effectively.

    Start Jennings, Pope, Smith, Monroe, Drummond.

    First subs. Monroe sits. Smith sits. Billups and Mitchell come in.

    Last 6 minutes of 1st quarter:

    Jennings, Billups, Pope, Mitchell , Drummond.

    Start of 2nd quarter. Jennings sits. Pope goes back to shooting guard. Smith back in. Monroe back in. Drummond rests.

    Billups, Pope, Mitchell, Smith, Monroe

    Four minutes into 2nd quarter. Jennings is back in. Pope sits. Monroe sits. Drummond returns.:

    Jennings, Billups, Mitchell, Smith, Drummond.

    Last 4 minutes of 2nd quarter, Monroe back in for Drummond. Pope returns for Billups:

    Jennings, Pope, Mitchell, Smith, Monroe

    At the half, for minutes, thats Jennings 20, Billups 14, Pope 20, Smith 18, Mitchell 18, Monroe 14, Drummond 16

    We start the 2nd half with:

    Jennings, Billups, Mitchell, Monroe, Drummond

    Here, Mitchell is resting Smith right off the bat, and Billups is resting Pope. (With a 7 man rotation, you got to start resting people early if you want to end up with your starters fresh enough at the end of the game.)

    Six minutes into the 3rd quarter, Smith is back and Drummond sits. Pope comes in for Jennings:

    Billups, Pope, Mitchell, Smith, Monroe

    To start the 4th, both Pope and Jennings have had their rest for the game. Ditto for Smith. Monroe needs a breather. Drummond has been sitting for 6 minutes. So, to start the 4th quarter:

    Jennings, Pope, Mitchell, Smith, Drummond.

    At 3 minutes into the 4th, Drummond sits, and Monroe comes back in. Billups comes back in for his last 3 minutes. Mitchell sits. For about 3 minutes, you have:

    Jennings, Billups, Pope, Smith, Monroe.

    Halfway point of 4th. Monroe sits for a two minute breather. Drummond is back in. Mitchell is back in.

    For minutes 6-8, the unit out there is:

    Jennings, Pope, Mitchell, Smith, Drummond.

    The last 4 minutes, all the starters are back:

    Jennings, Pope, Smith, Monroe, Drummond.

    For total game minutes:

    Jennings 38, Pope 38, Billups 29, Smith 36, Mitchell 35, Monroe 33, Drummond 31

    Of note, Smith plays the first 6 minutes of the game and the last 4 at small forward. Thats 10 minutes at small forward, and 26 at power forward, the position people think he is best at.
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    Agree. Pope seems pretty big and athletic. Looked like the body of a SF to me when watching summer league.
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    I think Drummond is going to be pretty upset that you gave his boy Bynum a DNPCD. I doubt he will resign with the Pistons when he rookie deal expires.
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    Bynum will be playing minutes. Siva probably will as well.
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    As the roster currently is, we only have 7 guys we should be playing minutes. So we need to get another player or two.

    6-6 Tony Mitchell out of the University of Alabama looked pretty impressive in Summer League play. (played for Boston, PS, our Tony Mitchell is 6-9.) This guy is very athletic, is a scorer, and probably could play both backup small forward and backup shooting guard for us.

    We could then basically rotate four players - Smith, our current Tony Mitchell, Monroe, and Drummond at center and power forward.

    So anyway, here is a simple rotation based on having two completely separate units.

    Start Jennings, Pope, Tony Mitchell (6-6), Smith, Drummond

    2nd unit) Stuckey, Billups (Billups will actually set up the plays, but many plays could involve Stuckey driving and Billups being an outlet for an outside shot.), Datome, Tony Mitchell (6-9), Monroe.
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    Siva - Tony Mitchell - Singler Twin - Singler Twin - Tony Mitchell

    Pretty solid.
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    Start Jennings, Mejia, Pope, Smith, Drummond

    2nd unit: Siva, Billups, Tony Mitchell (6-6), Tony Mitchell (6-9), Monroe
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    Maybe we could do a S&T with Banvit Basketbol Kulubu to get Mejia and Izzet Turkyilmaz. Although Izzet is pretty close to his assistant coach, so we might want to consider making an offer to Yalçın Küçüközkan as well.
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    Or, if we pick English back up, and assuming Billups is not really ready to contribute,

    Start Jennings, Mejia, Pope, Smith, Drummond

    2nd unit: Siva, English, Tony and Tony, Monroe.

    Now you have a very strong defensive unit for the 2nd unit. (Leaving only Monroe as somewhat of a slacker in that department, but again, he would have less mess to clean up being on the floor with four good defenders.
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    Do you think Mejia is better than English?
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    How about the Former-Pistons-out-of-retirement-10-day-contract lineup?

    Anthony Goldwire, Hubert Davis, Michael Curry, Don Reid, Danny Manning.
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    As things stand now-

    BJ (32)/ Bynum (16)
    Billups (18)/ Pope (30)
    Smith (16)/ Gigi (20)/ Singler (12)
    Monroe (15)/ Smith (18)/ JJ-Tony-Chuck (15)
    Dre (28)/ Monroe (20)

    That's a solid ten man rotation. 2-3 shooters on the floor at all times. Maybe let Suckey and Will fight it out for the 15-18 minutes behind BJ. Maybe Singler plays some minutes at the 2.
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    I like it!

    I'm prepared for Bup Bup to be injured about half the season, so hopefully they can get The Kentavious up to speed quickly.

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