Six straight ECF appearances, so what, or a sign of dominance?

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  1. Dlev59

    Dlev59 Bench Warmer Moderator

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    For the last six season the Detroit Pistons have been in the Eastern Conf. Finals. During that time they have appeared in two Finals, winning one and coming up short in seven games the following season.

    Other EC teams have made deals, signed free agents, and have done whatever necessary to derail the Pistons train to the ECF.

    Nobody can deny that six straight ECF is a great accompishment, however, championships are what determines dominance, not second place, each and every year.

    I applaud the ECF appearances, but anything short of a championship this year would be a huge dissapointment to some, however, to others, they did make another ECF.
  2. Dumars4Ever

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    I think it's in between. It's obviously a terrific accomplishment that any franchise should be proud of, but true "dominance" only comes from winning multiple championships.
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    Well said, D4E. This team is fast becoming the Atlanta Braves of the NBA. Need to change that soon.
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    Owner is happy...he's making money at this level of success.
    Dumars is happy...he's looking good as a player procurer.
    Flip is happy...he'll get a new contract this off season.
    Fans are happy...They get competitive basketball year after year.
    Some fans are sad...they continue to think of the "what ifs".
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    ggazoo69 Team Captain Forum Donor

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    If he gets them to the Finals, yeah. He got them to the ECF last season. This was expected. No new contract is deserved. Not yet. No way.
  6. TaS

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    I don't think we're Braves-like. We have had a legitimate chance to win it all each year. It's a crazy game and nothing is handed to us.

    In 5 ECF appearances, we've gone on to the Finals 40% of the time and won it all 20% of the time. The expected outcome would be 50% and 25%, so we're pretty close to par. If we close the deal this year, then we will have received more than our fare share of the pie.
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    If we can't cross that # 12 off this time, then the six straight appearances will only mean that once again we became someone else's step child to the finals even though were supposedly the best team each time. If we can 't use the Atlanta Braves analogy then how about Kanye West?? Nominated but no Grammy...:MusicBigGrin:

    But alas it should also mean the end of Flip's reign at the palace and new ruler of next season.
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    How many teams have won more championships than the Pistons in the last 5 years? 1.
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    round All-Star 1x Fantasy Champion

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    Thinking off the top of my head... in the 5 years

    San Ant is 3-0 in the finals (didn't make the WCF in the two off years)
    Detroit is 1-1 in the finals
    La is 0-1 in the finals
    Miami is 1-0 in the finals
    Dallas is 0-1 in the finals
    Cleveland is 0-1 in the finals
    New Jersey is 0-1 in the finals

    So it can be argued I guess the only team besides San Ant that we would trade places with is Miami and there one title and then there total self destruction... I'll stick with us
  13. Darth Tater

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    Yes, I'm very proud of the team's accomplishments. But I think two ships in 6 trips would be just about right. Winning this year after the last two years dissappointments would be nice. I really don't see it happening though.
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    I totally agree. I didn't expect us to get out of the first round without AA and Amir playing, so from there on out, everything has been a gimmie! :MusicBigGrin:
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    Consistent excellence. Not so what. Not dominance.
  16. BallDon'tLie

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    I'll go a step further and say that Flip has to at least make a STRONG SHOWING in the finals to be rewarded with a new contract. Getting to the finals and being blown out in 4 or 5 games IMO is not quite good enough.
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    It's just like going to the Olympics but failing to bring home the Gold. We have gotten the bronze in the last two outings.

    It's just like waiting to fight the ultimate boxing match, the Las Vegas odds have you at 15-1 and yet you are TKO'd in the first round, you didn't get the belt.

    It's like the 9th inning, you are down by 2, bases loaded with 2 outs the count is at 3 balls 2 strikes, and you strike out.

    It's like a football game with the game tied and you have to go into overtime, you win the coin toss and defer to the other team to receive the ball, the other team win caused you GOOFED.

    So close and you just couldn't make the cut. We have to get the crown, a few people will remember you for having reached 6 consecutives ECF. Everyone will remember you if you win the Crown.
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    I'm down with that, BDL.
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    Aren't the Celtics the supposedly best team this year?
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    We need to win another title to declare dominance. If we don't this Pistons team will just look like a bunch of under achievers.

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